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Waterbox Frag 105.4 Dutch High Tech

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Technical specs:
  • Tank: Waterbox Frag 105.4 (48"L x 24"W x 16"H)
  • Filtration: Sump included with tank
  • Lighting: 2x BuildMyLED Dutch. I think they are the XB (more powerful) model but I honestly forget lol
  • CO2: Old GLA regulator with IDEAL needle valve. PVC reactor running on dedicated loop in sump. 10lb tank w/ 5lb backup
  • Return pump: Jebao DCP 5000 (~40%)
  • CO2 Reactor Pump: Jebao DCP 2500 (~30%)
  • Substrate: Black diamond blasting sand (BDBS)
Plants:
  • Rotala rotundifolia
  • Ludwigia red
  • Staurogyne repens
  • Dwarf hairgrass
  • Ludwigia arcuata
  • Monte carlo (barely any will probably remove)
  • Mermaid weed
  • Bacopa monnieri
  • Bacopa colorata
  • Blyxa japonica
  • Hygrophila araguaia
  • Limnophila aromatica 'mini'
  • Lobelia cardinalis 'small form'
  • Ludwigia sp rubin
  • Rotala Blood Red Singapore (SG)
  • Rotala Mexicana Goias
  • AR Mini Variegated
  • Physostegia purpurea (sword-like plant in front)
  • Penthorum sedoides
  • Limnophila belem
  • Limnophila helferi aka sp vietnam
  • Lagenandra meeboldii 'red round' (red rhizome-type plant)
  • Heteranthera zosterifolia (all melted on me)
  • Ludwigia Ovalis
  • Myrio Green (Myriophyllum pinnatum)
  • Myrio Red (Myriophyllum heterophyllum)
  • Rotala Magenta (Rotala macrandra v. 'narrow leaf')
  • Rotala Wallichii (Rotala wallichii)
  • Diplidis Diandra
Livestock:
  • 10 rummynose tetra
  • 5 harlequin rasbora
  • 2 sterbai cory
 

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#2 ·
Getting back into the forum after a long hiatus so I figured I should start another tank journal!

I did not do a great job documenting the early stages of this tank but here are some of the few pics / context from earlier this year.

We moved to our first house in Oct 2018 and I have not had any tanks set up since. I always wanted a nice shallow, large footprint tank as I thought this would be the ideal setup for planted. I still had my 2x 48" BuildMyLED and all other equipment from the past so I wanted to stick with the 4' length to reuse the lights. And big tanks are sick lol

After years of not having a tank (and enjoying not having to deal with it to be honest) I got the itch again eventually and pulled the trigger on the waterbox frag. The dimensions of this tank are AMAZING. First tank I have ever owned with overflow/sump so I was initially concerned with CO2. This is not an issue at all. I am easily able to get proper CO2 levels without doing anything special. Sumps are so much easier to clean/maintain too. Would recommend.

I received this tank in late Feb 2022. Set up completed in early-mid march. It was delivered after an ice storm so I had to haul it up my icy driveway which was super sketchy lol. My driveway was SHEER ICE at this point.
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Set up completed!
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Initially I had some hardscape with seiryu stone that I had leftover from past setups. I was really happy with this layout.
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#3 ·
I don't think I have any pics of initial planting. I stocked with lots of stems to begin with. My goal was to grow out as many stems as I can to cultivate a large mass of plants, primarily bushy bunches of stems. I really wanted some nice dense stem groups in this tank.

Here are some pics of earlier stages.

4/30/22 - At this point I had no desire to aquascape so I am just growing growing growing.:
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5/20/22 - Kind of a scape but still mostly just growing and propagating plants:
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I eventually grew to dislike dealing with hardscape and decided to go dutch. It's kind of annoying to constantly keep plants at proper height so that the rocks look good. As you can see in the last few pics I had also removed some of the large rocks too. The large stones just took up too much precious real estate and made it really hard to grow those nice bushy stems behind them.

Over time I stocked with 40 rummynose tetras. The fish are doing amazing and look great. I am going to begin adding more species to the tank though... Initially I wanted one huge school but now I am realizing that the rummynose are kind of boring. They literally just swim back and forth across the front pane and don't venture to other areas of the tank. I may even swap 10-20 out over time to make room for more fish of other species.

I had recently overdosed some ferts (K in particular) and my ludwigia red and a few other species lost most of its leaves. Ludwigia red hit the hardest by far though. I replanted the tops and let them grow for a full week to get the volume back. They bounced back great!

Plant mass is really solid at this point. I am still going to continue to scape the tank in different ways before landing on a scape I really enjoy. This current scape is still not at all what I want long term but the tank is overall in a very good spot. Ideally I will have more established foreground/midground and greater variety of background plants. I will probably also place things to provide better texture etc. This is my first dutch setup so I have kind of been trying different things. I am still mostly focusing on growing out certain species, keeping good plant mass, and propagating the species I want to use more of for future scapes. I am also going to begin sourcing more varieties of plants to grow out soon.

I also removed the taller stems from the left side and started to add more of a foreground there. The left side of the tank is viewable from the kitchen area but the right side of the tank is prettymuch up against a wall. That's why I have the taller stems on the right as you can't really see back there anyways.

Before and after trim pics (8/8 - 8/10):
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I'll probably be adding more pics of the setup in general (sump, CO2, etc) at some point

Right now I have 7 harlequin rasbora and 2 sterbai corys in QT. If the sterbais do well I will get a school of about 8 of them. Probably school of 15 harlequins at the end of the day. We'll see. The sterbais are absolutely gorgeous
 
#6 ·
Yeah frag dimensions are way better. Coming from a standard 75... it was wayyy too tall. So much harder to light, stems have to grow really tall which causes issues near the bottom, etc.

I really like the quality of waterbox for the most part. I wish my glass was thicker like your tank (which obviously needs it because 2' longer). Only 1cm glass kind of scares me. Also my first rimless so I am just scared of rimless tanks in general I guess.
 
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I honestly dose very little. Just feeding the fish does most the work for me. I keep track of everything in a spreadsheet I created that does all the calculations of how many PPM of each nutrient I am adding. I dose dry ferts directly into my sump

Right now I am dosing about 1/2 tsp of KNO3 / 1/4 tsp of KH2PO4 / 1/4 tsp CMS+B each week. Not all at the same time. I am not too disciplined about it though lol. I got messed up when I dosed "EI levels" for a while so I dose far less than that and it works better for me
 
#15 ·
I have been seeing some twisted and/or stunted new growth on some species (ludwigia red is the worst offender) and some dark veins and paler leaves. So I have tested my water hardness. My kH is 2 and my gH is also 2. I think I am seeing calcium and/or magnesium deficiencies which is impacting the new growth. And my water is quite soft. I am adding some CaSO4 and MgSO4 to increase general hardness by approx 1 point for now. I will likely increase this even more over time and supplement my water changes with these chemicals to boost gH.

I already had some of these dry ferts from a long time ago so I am just going to use these instead of some all in one gH booster mix.

I am also going to be modifying my CO2 reactor for increased flow / greater efficiency soon
 
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Have since done a few more rescapes and swapped a few species in and out

A combination of lazy trimming habits and carelessness led me to lose most of my ludwigia arcuata and ludwigia red stems. I let the dense bunches get out of control and too much of the bottoms died off so I had trouble recovering the good tops. I only have like one healthy stem of arcuata left lol. Pretty bummed that I screwed up that bad but oh well it will grow back eventually.

I also did a really large water change and my mermaid weed all snapped in half so they are basically dead now too. Trying to bring them back to life as well...

In general my main focus now is on propagating stems back to be nice and dense like before

I've also since seen some deficiency issues with a few species and had some pretty tough losses in plant mass and overall plant health

I really like a few areas of my layout now but the background needs some serious time/work to grow in nicely again. Should be looking really good in a month or so time I think

10/11/2022 - 10/16/2022

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#22 ·
It never even occurred to me you might be trimming daily! Yeah I can see how that would change things when you can constantly cut tops to keep the bottoms from being shaded out.
 
#23 ·
Yeah I am constantly propagating stems and moving things around. Doing a little bit of that every few days goes a long way and I much prefer it vs long multiple hour sessions messing with my entire setup.

I'll probably get lazy eventually and lean towards slower growing plants that don't need as much maintenance.

Right now I am LOVING my bacopa colorata because it grows really well for me, grows relatively slowly, and is super easy for me to trim and propagate. I also love my blyxa because it grows fairly slowly and doesn't need to be maintained. Compared to something like my red rotala that can be picky, run into random issues, grow very quickly at times, needs to be trimmed and pruned much more frequently, etc etc
 
#30 ·
The flow patterns of the returns didn't really work for my layout. I have since replaced the outputs with my own PVC spraybars and removed the extra powerhead.

The overflow is dead silent when adjusted properly. Based on plant mass getting stuck in my weir it will make a little bit of noise. The only sound coming from my tank 99% of the time is the slight trickle of water from my CO2 reactor. The waterbox overflow itself is very very quiet / silent