I bought five of each of these and within a week I was down to three black neons and zero zebra Danios. I check my tank multiple times throughout the day and not once did I ever see a dead body. I only have two fish in my tank that I could even hurt them and that's an angel fish which is not very big and A smaller pictus cat. But I'm sure my plecos did a good job of cleaning them up but like I said I check my tank multiple times a day and I never saw a body. Could they have possibly jump