Obviously the pros of the 302 have been covered. What I can say... when you buy the 302 you have money left over for an inline heater or to go towards co2. I have been running mine a while and I love it. For the money, it can not be beat. Eheims are great filters, I just can't justify the price. I do not regret my purchase 1 bit.

I think sunsun owes me a commission though... I've sold more of these than anyone I think!

 

2213 is too small for a 55, my 2217 is struggling on a 45.

 

but but it says it goes up to a 66 gallon tank o.o

after farther looking it seems a lot of people agree with you reybie thanks a lot. I wouldnt have checked because just assumed an ehiem would do as it said

well then i guess ill have to get a sunsun 302 i assume that cn filter a 55 gallon tank.

 

Those numbers aren't reliable IME. Go with the SunSun. Even then I might want two of them on my 55.

 

Think i would be alright then with the sunsun and an old eheim (not sure how much it claims to filter since it is so old but it is probably like a 30-40 gallon filter)

 

That would be great. Filter maintenance would be a breeze b/c you could completely clean out one of the filters and still have the other one as backup.

 

The filter "recommendations" that manufacturers print on the boxes are usually quite optimistic and do not reflect the actual conditions in a tank.

I agree that a 2213 is too small for a 55g. I would not use it on anything larger than a (lightly stocked) 20g. For a 55g, I would recommend going with the 2217, as already mentioned. If you find there is too much flow, it is a simple matter to reduce the flow (i.e. with a spray bar, etc).

 

The 302 flows about 140 GPH

 

okay thanks again i guess ima get a sunsun :red_mouth

 

I'd get a 2217. What happens 5 years from now when you need an o-ring or an impeller for the SunSun?

 

you simply contact the manufacturer and get one, of course.

 

im gonna have to go with the eheim2217 great filter...

 

as great as the 2217 is it is about $100 more and im on a budget. Hmmm never mind i could probably get it for around $112 costs more but it should be more efficient and the parts easier to replace

for the sunsun im looking at one says it is for 100 gallons and another says for 60 gallons both claim to have a flow rate of 264 GPH. Should i assume they are the same pump and one seller is just being more realistic?

 

Lol... you buy another sunsun and STILL save money. That being said, I've contacted the manufacturer and was able find out they can send replacements.

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some of the Eheim impellers cost almost as much or more than a SunSun...

 

Obviously it is because the Eheim is precision engineered in germany...

There are people who would buy a bag of crap if it had an Eheim or ADA logo on it...

 

Im just worried that something bad will happen with the pump while im away at collage next year. The ehiem is more likely to be dependable i would think....(though it depends not sure how long people have had a sunsun. The ehiem we got is over 20 years old and still works great)

plus i doubt my parents will let me get 2 sunsun filters (would be $20 more then the ehiem 2217 that i found) So the ehiem would give more filtration.

Still sucks cause i have to pay my parents back and it cost $40 more then the sunsun.

 

The thing is simple, after handling these filters it is quality. It just doesn't have a fancy logo or advertising to go with it.

THe parts that matter--connections, housing, pump--seem more than reliable.

If you want to dump your money down the drain, go ahead.

 

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Do you use "official" filter pads for the SunSun? or do you create your own media?

 

So overstocked do you know if they ehiem 2217 and the 2 sunsun 302 are on the same lvl of filtration (both claim to have 264 gph for one pump but the sunsun is reduced with the media. Though the ehiem probably is too)

and i agree that ehiems are a bit costly. The only reason im considering it is because i found one for $107 which is $23-$93 cheaper then you would normally get it. Though the company aquariumgarden keeps rejecting my emails that ask what media they include.... though it could be because i give them false info cause im paranoid about identity theft.

how wow jsut did the math in my head i think i can get 2 sunsuns for the same price as that one ehiem O_O. (i forgot shipping and handling)

 

i think im leaning towards 2 sunsuns considering they would provide more flow and filtration than 1 ehiem 2217

but the ehiem 2217 is rated for 167 gallons and the sun suns are for 60 gallons. (though they both say 264 gph)

So what im asking is if 2 sunsuns 302 filter better than just 1 2217 ehiem

 

i think im leaning towards 2 sunsuns considering they would provide more flow and filtration than 1 ehiem 2217

but the ehiem 2217 is rated for 167 gallons and the sun suns are for 60 gallons. (though they both say 264 gph)

So what im asking is if 2 sunsuns 302 filter better than just 1 2217 ehiem

Personally I wouldn't go with two filters on a 55. It's really not necessary and gives you more to take of and more equipment to look at. The Eheim 2217 is dead quiet, very reliable and should be great for that tank. I actually have a 2215 on my 72g and have zero issues. I also used to run a 2213 on a 46g again with no issues. Most will err on more flow, so go with the 2217.

 

Does the sun-sun come with filter media?

Also how strong does flow stay in a stocked tank, how long between service intervals?

I used to be an avid Rena fan... until I purchased an eheim 2213 used from a member on here. Since then I have purchased 4-2213's 2-2215's and 2-2217's and only one (the 2217 on my 60-p) was new. Since owning them I have found that the flow stats consistent for longer then any Rena I have owned and they are quieter.

I have never owned a sun-sun so I cannot speak to their dependability or reliability but I can say that any money spent on any Eheim filter from the Classic line will be money well spent.

 

Does the sunsun come with filter media?

Depends who you buy it from. Some seem to have some some dont. The brand also seems to have switched names for the 302 (without the light thingy)

Or at least i think it is can people verify that the brand Perfect is really Sunsun with a new name

 

gah i really dont know what to get 2 sunsuns 302 or 1 ehiem 2217.

the main problem with the ehiem is its cost T_T

 

I can almost guarentee you that over time the eheim will cost less and give you less problems. It is the "bar" and has been for canister filters for years.

 

Eheim canister filters tend to be out of sight expensive, but you only need to buy it one time. Parts are generally available, and the choices of Eheim media covers just about anything you'd ever want to do with a canister. If you set it up properly and don't abuse it, the canister will outlive you.

I can not say this for other brands of canisters I have owned. I don't think the Sunsun would be that bad, and I admit that this is one I have not used, but from a quality standpoint I doubt that it's anywhere close to the Eheim. OTOH, the cost of the Eheim might be enough to pay for a lifetime supply of the Sunsun.

 

I'll leave it at, "you get what you pay for"...

 

If you must get an Eheim get it used or at a steep discount. Their pricing is disgustingly high. The media is great but overpriced IME also. You can easily buy your own custom media for much cheaper than the Eheim stuff.

 

Although I agreee with you, picked my last 2217 up for 50 bux! Classic's and ecco's are reasonably priced, it's the proII's and 3's that get too pricey IMO...

 

I vote for the Eheim. It's been around forever and will last you forever. Best filter on the market IMO.

 

Personally I'd go for the Eheim, or get a Rena Filstar.

I like being able to go on vacation and not ever worry about my tank filters.