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My 75 Gal w/ DIY Custom Stand and DIY Sump/Refugium

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi All,



This is my first post, although I’ve been lurking and learning from this forum for some time now. I know the post is long, but during my research and planning, I had a hard time finding examples of others who have combined a FW tank with a sump. I hoped that taking a leap on the project and documenting the build with a comprehensive review could provide a decent resource to others that have considered a similar setup.



I’ve been a fishkeeper off and on for the last 15 years, however none of my previous tanks were planted. I’ve taken the last several years off, mostly due to space limitations in my old home. I knew when we moved to our new house that it would be a matter of time before I was going to have a new setup up and running and I’m glad to say I finally pulled the trigger on the project. Although I had not ruled out an African Cichlid Biotope, I was looking for a bigger challenge from my previous cichlid tanks and have always loved the beauty of planted tanks. Although this is a low/mid tech tank at the moment, I’m hoping to slowly bring it up to high tech once I get a handle on balancing the needs of a planted tank.



This tank was going in my living room, and would need to meet certain requirements set forth by myself and my wife. The following were the project objectives in no particular order:



1.All outside equipment would need to be hidden

2.Maximize Water volume for stability

3.Allow for multiple orientations in the room (against wall or peninsula/room divider)

4.Minimize equipment inside display tank

5.Allow the tank to be easily observed from the adjacent couch or chair

6.Minimize light spill into room

7.Easy to maintain/service

8.Quiet



As far as orienting the tank in the room, I really wanted a room divider/ peninsula set up where you can view the tank from 3 sides, 2 of which are the long sides. My wife wasn’t keen on the idea, due to our current furniture and their layout in the room. I decided to build the setup with the option to switch it to a room divider at a later date, but for now, it would go in the corner between the two pieces of furniture.



The Stand:



Due to my needs for this build, I decided to build my own custom stand from scratch. This would allow my tank to sit at the precise height and distance from the wall in order to view the display comfortably from the seats that my wife and I usually sit in. I knew I didn’t want the tank against the wall, because from the couch that sits at the end of it, you would have to crane your neck backwards in order to have a good viewing angle. I also thought about background choices and decided I wanted the option for a shadowbox if I chose. Both of those desires led me to deciding to build a backing to the stand that would push it away from the wall and allow for the use of space behind it.



Here are the pics of the stand build from bones to skin. I used 2x4’s, 1x3’s, and 1x2’s for the frame, and skinned it in a combination of ¼” plywood and 5mm underlayment, depending on how viewable the surface was. I was looking for sheets that were void of any imperfections. I was going to be sealing and painting the inside and out, so grain was not a deciding factor in wood choice.



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I built it in 3 sections: The stand and side cabinet, a back that runs the length and height behind the stand, and a canopy that runs the length of the display and side cabinet. This design allowed me to get it through a doorway and also disassemble if I needed to access one of the areas in the back for some reason.



Filtration (DIY Sump)



As part of my stated goal of maximizing water volume and hiding internal aquarium equipment, I knew that a sump would easily meet both demands. What was not easy however, was finding others with a sump on a freshwater tank. I know that canisters are exceptional filtration for FW tanks, however, they wouldn’t offer me much in the way of the additional water volume I was after. Since I had still left the option of a cichlid tank on the table, the sump would also allow me space for a refugium to assist in removing nitrates.



Most sump designs I researched on the web were designed for saltwater setups. They had baffles mainly to reduce bubbles and foam that are a result of salt water tumbling through the filter. It took me a while to arrive at the conclusion that baffles were not needed on a FW sump. However, I still had the need to divide the sections of the sump with something. That’s when I stumbled across Poret Foam. After a bit of research and emailing layout ideas to Stephen with Swiss Tropicals, I was convinced this is what I needed. It pulls triple duty as compartment dividers, mechanical, and bio filtration. At the advice from Stephen, I went with no less than 3” thickness for each divider. This would allow for the needed rigidity since I was standing the foam up instead of laying it down. For this sump tank, I chose a 40B, as it was the largest I could fit in the footprint below the DT.



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For sake of space, I placed my heaters in the first chamber.



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Separating the 1st and 2nd chamber is 4” of 10ppi Poret Foam. This acts as my first layer of mechanical filtration, filtering out the largest particles so the detritus doesn’t build up too rapidly. This allows me longer time between cleanings while maintaining water flow.



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The second chamber houses my additional bio media. I chose pot scrubbers due to their cost and effectiveness. You can buy them on the cheap at dollar stores and they work very well. Separating chamber 2 from my refugium is 3” of 20ppi Poret Foam. The smaller ppi allows for finer particles to be caught as the water moves through the sump.



Here is the refugium.


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Initially, in accounting for a Cichlid tank, I wanted a place where I could place some Pothos, Hornwort, or Water Sprite to aid in the removal of nitrates. I have a full time job and 2 kids under 8, so I was looking for something to help keep my water clean in the event I missed a water change. In the end, I went with a planted tank, so the refugium is redundant for nitrate removal, but would still work as a grow out tank for feeder organisms, isolation tank for bullied fish, or whatever else you can think of.



The final divider separating the refugium from the pump chamber is 3” of 30ppi Poret foam. 30ppi is very fine. It acts as a fantastic water polisher. At first I was concerned that it was too fine to allow the needed water flow through it. However, I have no issue at all with it.



To clean the Poret, all that is needed is a semi-annual ritual of taking the foam outside to the driveway, slamming it on the concrete several times, and re-inserting it back into the sump. After experiencing the headache of cleaning a canister far more often than that, I could check off ease of maintenance from the list. The one thing I did not see coming with the use of Poret is that it quite effectively disperses the water movement so that the surface of the water in the sump develops a milky white protein film. Not that big of a deal, but you may experience the same. A couple of Hydor Koralia’s down in the refugium and pump chambers took care of most of it.



The Plumbing:



I’ll start at the overflow box. Since I was looking for something super sleek and unobtrusive in the display tank, I decided on a box from Synergy Reef.


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It could move far more water than I would need for this setup, and since it can move approx 1600gph, I could actually take it to a larger tank when the time came. The box is designed to be used with a Bean Animal overflow design, allowing for a full siphon running at all times, and 2 backups in the event of a blockage or failure. Below, the full siphon is on the bottom, the open channel is on the top, and the emergency standpipe is in the middle.



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The full siphon downpipe has a gate valve to allow you to “tune” it for flow volume and quietness.


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Some people have used ball valves here, but after experiencing the fine adjustment that can be needed, I could not imagine it being easy with anything other than a gate valve. The other two downpipes have no restraints, and are designed to handle as much water as your pipe diameter would allow. The overflow box was designed for use with 1” PVC, so that is what I went with. You can find more about this here. You’ll see on my setup that I have a few 45 degree bends in mine. This was to allow the pipes to fit between the frame, but I had to go back and switch my open channel after I glued the pipes together. Not wanting to re-build the down pipes, I opted to leave them as they were and just switch them around. When planning, try and avoid too many turns, especially 90 degree elbows. They slow your flow rate down. 45’s are far more efficient at making turns while keeping a high flow rate.



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PVC remains the most popular option I found for plumbing a sump. I saw many instances of using re-inforced flexible tubing, however, I realized that the transparency of the tubing would encourage algae growth inside the tubing that could not easily be removed without disassembling. Plus, it can get expensive if you’re running it over longer distances. For those reasons, I decided to go with standard PVC.



On the return pump, I originally ran the PVC all the way to the loc line returns. Although the Eheim 1262 is an exceptionally quiet pump, when the pump was turned on, the vibrations carried throughout the PVC and sump/stand. In order to lessen the vibration hum, I put a silicone drying tray with some leftover Poret Foam underneath the pump. This dampened a lot of the vibration, but the PVC was still carrying quite a bit.



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I also attached a ball valve on the line out from the pump. This allows me to throttle the pump’s output to better match the volume that the overflow box is handling. The Eheim 1262 pushes 900 gph, which I found to be quite a bit for this 75 gallon (at least with the 2 loc line nozzles). Closing the valve in increments essentially just adds head pressure to the pump, so it’s not much different than adding vertical pipe to the output. These pumps can handle a decent amount of head pressure just fine, but make sure you account for that in your choice of pump and plumbing setup.



I cut out a portion of the PVC and replaced it with a small section of the flexible hose I had considered before. This wiped out almost all of the vibration.



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Now, with the tuned overflow and vibration dampening from the pump, the sump filtration system runs extremely quiet. I have to open the cabinet and hold my breath to hear any water movement at all. My computer fan is louder than this setup.



I ran my return line up the back of the tank. Because I had it against the wall, I chose to run it the most direct route possible. If I ever re-orient the tank to be a peninsula or room divider, I can re-plumb the return line to run under and over the length of the tank. At the end of the return line are 2 loc line nozzles instead of a spray bar.



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I like how I can change the direction of the nozzles to minimize surface agitation as well as help with water circulation around the plants. It also allows me to dial in just a bit of surface agitation if I wanted the water to have a ripple effect. The Aquatic Life Halos are fantastic for this due to their small point of light compared to a light bar fixture. Obviously, this wouldn’t work too well if you were trying to prevent outgassing of your CO2, but I don’t believe it has any effect on tanks that use Excel as their only source of carbon.



One note about the plumbing. Do not skimp on the use of union fittings. If for some reason you need to service your plumbing, these are vital for accessibility and disassembly. They can save you hours of time and headache. Plan carefully. As you can see, I used them everywhere where I felt I made need to replace a part/component or pull something out.



The final product:


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And some pics of the tank's placement in the room for context:



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Overall, I’m really happy with the way it turned out, and more importantly, so is my wife. Sure, there may be a few things I would do differently, but I’m not losing sleep over it any time soon. Constructive criticism or feedback is very much welcome.



Thanks!
 
#2 ·
Wow. That stand. Job well done.

In the process of doing my own custom 75 set up.... Made my DIY sump, built the stand and now just waiting to buy the tank and build the canopy.

Nice to see your plumbing for the sump... I am currently debating hard plumbing it all or trying to avoid and doing braided tubing. I see how you did a bit of both to avoid vibration. I went with the Eshopps 1200 overflow doing a Herbie modification. Still debating running soft tubing from the overflow bulkheads vs hard plumbing.... Everyone complains about hard plumbing is much louder. Any input on that?

Can't wait to see how this does!
 
#8 · (Edited)
Thanks!

Funny thing is, I had this originally plumbed from overflow to sump with braided tubing. It allowed for a more sweeping bend than rigid PVC was going to allow me. The only thing I did not like was the fact that it was going to be exposed to a decent amount of light and eventually get covered with algae. I know I could have just covered it with some tape, but because PVC is so cheap, I decided to try it to see how loud it was.

When it's tuned, you can barely hear anything at all, even with the cabinet door open and holding your head close to it. Maybe it's due to the flow rate being half of what my overflow is designed for, but either way, it's silent. I can sit next to it in the chair, and can't hear anything.
 
#6 ·
Kudos on the cabinet/stand and it looks great in the room! A definite A+.

I think the sump might be improved. I think I'd move the heaters to the clean/pump side so they don't get mucked up. You might also use a filter sock to initially catch debris. Then again, do you even get much detritus with an overflow? I'd imagine that most stays in the tank (which is fine for a planted tank as it organically fertilizes plants).

Unless your replacing bio-balls with pot scrubbies in a wet/dry, they are far less effective submerged. Your sponge dividers are a far better platform for beneficial bacteria.I'd remove the scrubbies and either add another sponge or move the two together creating a larger refuge and/or larger return chamber.
 
#9 ·
Thanks! I've been thinking of ways for small improvements. I put the heaters on that end first only because the output side was little cramped for space and I was reluctant to put them on the side glass until I could get a feel for the evaporation rate. The pic in the post is 3 months of the system running with a bio-load. There's almost no ditritus in the first chamber. I took the heaters out last week to raise the temp due to a slight case of ich, and they were completely clear of slime or build-up. The only lings that seem to make their way down there is a few flakes and plant matter. Most is caught by the weir. Ironically, the chamber is the 2nd cleanest behind the pump chamber.

I've thought about moving the scrubbies out as well. I'm almost convinced that the foam is all I need for bio. Swiss Tropicals recommends at leat an inch between foam pieces (although I'm not sure why), and I figured I'd just throw in some scrubbies for added bio while I was at it. I'm starting to think my fuge is too big for my system because I've never registered a nitrate reading since cycling. Although, it may be due to the fuge light running 24/7...

Bump:
With that overflow box is the tank drilled or does it go over the side some how?
I had to drill 2 60mm holes through the side. The overflow came with a template to assist with hole placement. Drilling was a heck of a lot easier than I thought it would be.
 
#13 ·
Wow!

That is a beautiful tank and stand. It completely goes with the other cabinets in your room. Love the Synergy Reef overflows. I just got one for a tank I am looking to set up. Very low profile.



Your scape looks good too. Any chance of a closer shot?


Thank you! I built the bookshelves in that room as well. I wanted the tank to match as much as possible. Luckily, I had lots of leftover paint.

I haven't taken a ton of closer shots of the scape yet, but I have a few..

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Jeff

Fish keeping veteran, planted tank greenhorn
 
#16 ·
Very, very nice DIY stand build and tank too!

You obviously spent a lot of time thinking the whole thing through. I'm sure that stand build will inspire others to make something similar, as it is a great design. Fits very well into your space.

And once again, the tank looks beautiful as well.
 
#26 · (Edited)
So I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on ordering my poret foam 4" of 10, 20 & 30. Do you still feel each of the 3 layers is important, or if you had to do over would you go 20, 20, & 30 or 20, 30, 30? Also I was initially planning on going with a 3" layer of polyfill right before the sump pump. With your setup do you think that would even be needed as I've got a similar design in mind. Except having a refuge area just after the input of DT water.
 
#27 ·
Great questions. If I had it to do all over again, I can't say I would do it any differently. Since I myself had never worked with Poret, I trusted Steve from Swiss Tropicals and his recommendation based on the layout illustration I provided him. I haven't experienced a single problem with it.

I can't say that I think 20 as the first baffle would offer any tangible benefit in my setup. The overflow box does an awesome job as a surface skimmer, so the first chamber gets a decent amount of debris. That being said, I don't think 20 would clog any faster than the 10 I have in there now.

I asked Steve about the polyfill myself and he said I wouldn't need it. Plus, he said that polyfill had to lay horizontal, and couldn't be oriented vertically as a baffle. Nonetheless, the 30 acts as a fantastic polisher on its own. I haven't felt I have needed anything beyond its polishing capabilities. The pump chamber in my sump is crystal clear.


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#30 ·
Thanks Econde! That corner of the living room had aquarium written all over it. I'm just glad my wife thought so too. The paint matches the built-in shelves of the room along with the trim and molding. It definitely helps the tank feel like part of the room.


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#49 ·
Thanks! I have left the 120s on from the factory. I think I definitely need it on the left, but have thought about experimenting with the 80 degrees on the right and angling the fixture to play with how it affects the mood of the lighting..

Bump:
I'm coming from the salt world. Bean's overflow system is awesome. Completely silent, and pretty much a "set it and forget it" item. Add in the safety pipe which can run both open and full siphon...can't go wrong. It does take some room for all three pipes though.

Nicely done. I too am a big fan of sumps, and will be utilizing one on my next build.
Thanks and agreed! Since this was my first venture into this type of filtration, I was nervous about how it would all go down. However, it was much simpler than I thought. Multiple safety systems in place give me a lot of comfort.
 
#48 ·
I'm coming from the salt world. Bean's overflow system is awesome. Completely silent, and pretty much a "set it and forget it" item. Add in the safety pipe which can run both open and full siphon...can't go wrong. It does take some room for all three pipes though.

Nicely done. I too am a big fan of sumps, and will be utilizing one on my next build.
 
#55 ·
This build is exactly what I wanted to do in my house! I have almost the same setup as you! That little area of kinda dead space that I don't know what to do with but just screams fish tank! I have had turtles my whole life and have decided that this space will have a planted turtle tank. I believe if I plan it right and build it with the idea that turtles can be destructive I can create a beautiful habitat! But The stand I planned to build to fit into the room better and you have done exactly what I was thinking!

I have a question though! Did you paint the back of the tank white? Or is that the white of the shadow box?

The 3 cabinets just sit next to each other? The strips that cover the seams of the different stands, how do they go around the end of the ledge for drinks. How did you get the tank to sit up against the wall with the base board?

I apologize in advance but I am going to copy A LOT of aspects of you stand and sump build!
 
#58 ·
This build is exactly what I wanted to do in my house! I have almost the same setup as you! That little area of kinda dead space that I don't know what to do with but just screams fish tank! I have had turtles my whole life and have decided that this space will have a planted turtle tank. I believe if I plan it right and build it with the idea that turtles can be destructive I can create a beautiful habitat! But The stand I planned to build to fit into the room better and you have done exactly what I was thinking!



I have a question though! Did you paint the back of the tank white? Or is that the white of the shadow box?



The 3 cabinets just sit next to each other? The strips that cover the seams of the different stands, how do they go around the end of the ledge for drinks. How did you get the tank to sit up against the wall with the base board?



I apologize in advance but I am going to copy A LOT of aspects of you stand and sump build!


Don't apologize! Copy away! I always appreciated others who posted their work online for me to pull ideas from. Im just paying it forward!

There are 3 pieces; the stand and side cabinet as one unit, the canopy, and the back. What you're seeing in the pic is a frosted window film on the back glass. I have since removed it because I would get the water's ripple effect on it, and it was distracting. I felt like I lost the depth I was after.

The seams at the ends of the ledge were cut to fit as precise as I could get it. The one on the side cabinet is one piece, so it never moves. The one on the side is attached to the same piece as the drink ledge, and the back piece slips under the strip to "seal" the seam. Here's some close ups:
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I pushed the tank as close to the baseboard as possible. I didn't want to remove the baseboard, as this wasn't a permanent installation. There's a small gap that doesn't bother me at all.

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Glad you found this helpful and good luck with your build!!


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#56 ·
I think the floating plants in the top of the (OP) original poster's refugium help reduce the surface area on that little patch of water area.
The surface of that water will get a film without baffles.
Even good flow gets a stale film on it in the open areas.
The point was to not have extra circulation pumps humming away down in an area with a trouble spot
like I had on mine.

I found the stale chamber had little fruit fly bugs that were loving the stagnant film in that trouble spot area between sponges.

It works out well if you stuff foam in the right spots to keep the sump-water's surface film minimal.

Choices of thick foam, glued baffles as on a reef sump, or zip tied barriers will help aid the finer or thinner foams from moving as they get saturated with turds.

The best method is said to be heavy amount of thick Poret sponge.
The PPI (pores per inch) need to be dialed in on what block of sponge you stuff in.
I think 30 PPI was the right "pore size".

Downstream is a finer polyfluff or finer PPI foam block to catch smaller stuff.
(*)Imagine water rolling down your house steps and placing the correct towels, gutter screen and pot scrubbers to clean the water for an imaginary science experiment.

The key is to really load up the Bio area, but I hear that the bio will usually balance out to how much is in the tank as for fish.
Almost NEVER be on the low side of the scale when it comes to not enough of this sponge for the bio to convert.
 
#57 · (Edited)
This is a 20gal high 24x12x16 sump below a 60cube.

The OP has it correct.
Maintenance is minimal on a these sumps.
The foam sponge gets smacked on a flat or screen surface just like a heavy wet car wash sponge.
Bam.
Smack.

Soak.
Bam.
Smack.
The heavy water runs out of it so easily.

A lid to a tote or a trash can will aid
in catching the dripping sponge when the user 1st pulls out this
loaded fish-poop sponge to clean it.
-Carry it to the back yard.
-Smack it out.

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Tanks in stores:

The normal 2 holes seen on tanks found in the reef section can be modded.
-Run the water in the small pre-drilled hole as the 100% siphon draining water downward.
-Run the big hole as AN EMERGENCY pipe with a slight slant-cut (water will find the low side 1st).

If ANYthing goes wrong, then the big Emergency standby pipe will take the load of the pumping water.
The OP is running a 3-hole type method.
A standard pre-drilled at the store has 2 holes.
Some have more or different configurations.

You can always run the return line up over the tank like a garden hose or with glued dark PVC pipe and Lok-line fittings.

The OP has the best one in my opinion.
"1 nostril running full go, and 2 back up holes for when the aquarium life punches ya' in the nose".

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This next pic is a driftwood stained 80gallon.
A Herbie 2-pipe method is fitted on the Deep Blue rimless 80.

-The main drain is fully submerged under that water line a few inches as a full drain.
-The water draining is "choked" by a valve to adjust the siphon speed.
-The water will slowly rise in the overflow section of the tank and match closely with your 2nd hole, the Emergency pipe.
-The overflow section height is fianlly quiet when you get all the pipes cut to the right length.
-The harmony takes a good day of tinkering.

It's the most educational thing I've done in fluid dynamics in my life.
I like this stuff.

A water top off robot is a must have item.
Choose your droid wisely.
There are a few brands to choose from.
The water level in the sump will make it easy or harder on the pump AND make the overflow section water level change (more noise with daily evaporation).
A top off droid will ensure your safe and very quiet new tank.
A DC pump will really take it to the next level of sound dampening.
- get a bigger pump.
-run on 1/3 to 2/3 speed.

All vibrations and noise are dialed in like a dimmer down to almost nothing.

Add a Kessil A80 fan-less light and your about to have a zen garden in no time.
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#59 ·
Just last week was the first time I had to clean the foam in the sump. The 30ppi foam in the last section had some build up of gunk from the fuge. It began to bow from the flow of water and the level in the last chamber had dropped by about a half an inch.

I took the foam out back, banged it on the patio, gave it a quick rinse in tank water, and reinserted.

4 minutes and it was back in place with full flow again.


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#63 ·
Really nice job. And the scape looks super clean as well.

Two questions or possibly constructive critiques for you:

Why the scrubbers between the foam? To me it seems a wasted space since the same space filled with foam should have much much larger surface area. Maybe just put three foam instead of just two Like they use in pre-filters? Coarse -> Medium -> Fine.

Why the slow growing plants in the sump? Wouldnt fast growing plants be more beneficial?

Edit: Sorry, I spoke too soon. Totally missed the planning part of the sump on page 3. The 1-2-3 bit was taken care of haha. Still dont get the whole deal about the scrubbers though.
 
#64 ·
Thanks! I would agree that the scrubbers may not be needed. I guess in my approach, I was looking for as much area as possible for bacteria to grow.

I had seen on Swiss Tropicals' page where they had foam cubes to do the same thing, but was trying to cut a few costs at the time to complete the project. Here's a link to what I'm talking about.

http://www.swisstropicals.com/filtration-shop/poret-aqua-media-shop/


I'm not sure my bio load with this type of tank will ever justify the scrubbies, but I figured I haven't needed the sump space for anything else yet.

I appreciate your feedback!


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#65 ·
Thank you for the up close pictures of the joints! that really helps! I am so glad you have it just off the wall because that has been an area I have been struggling to design. BTW I have been showing everyone your tank this weekend! I have been saying for a year that this is what I wanted to do but no one could picture it! Now they can and they love yours!

The frosted tint: The shimer bothered you? I know you built it like a shadow box behind but didnt you run some equipment in that area? Can I see what it looks like without the frosted tint? BTW never thought of using tint I always painted them that is a cool idea because it could let you add colored LEDs in the background to change the mood of the tank or to make specific colors pop!

theDCpump, God I wished I had seen that way back when I had my saltwater tank! I never thought to have a full siphon and to cut the AUX overflow at an angle to direct all the falling water to one side! That would have been clutch! I spent so much effort trying to quiet that area! Thanks for the tip next go around it will be used lol!
 
#66 ·
Glad it helped! And, thank you for the compliments!

Yeah, the shimmer on the frosted glass film distracted me. It's likely because I never got around to backlighting it, so there was no alternate light source to overpower the Halos. I'm sure it would have been fine once backlit, but I was already considering going in a different direction with the backdrop. Even if I decided to take away the shimmer by adjusting the locline below the surface, I found the film to be bright and reflective. Not a bad thing, but it did take away the mood I had in mind.

Yes, I did run the return line up the back right corner of the shadowbox. You could barely make out the PVC when the film was on it, but since removing the film, you can see the pvc pipe. I am planning on making a hardboard backdrop to place in front of the pipe, but far enough off of the back glass as to not get any shimmer on the backdrop. It's abit hard to explain without something to show, but I essentially want it to look like the plain wall behind the tank. It will be painted the same color as the surrounding wall, but I want to pull as much attention off of the backdrop as possible and place it on the aquascape and inhabitants. I will try and take a pic of what it looks like tonight without the film on it.