yeah, azgardens will screw you on shipping, so it's only good to order from them if you plan on buying a ton of stuff. I'd write to franksaquarium.com who can probably get them if they are currently get-table, and his pricing on livestock and shipping is a lot more competitive. don't be discouraged by franks amateur looking web sight, since that guy really delivers fantastic livestock. if he can get them, figure a week to come in stock, another week in quarantine, then by the third week he can ship them to you usually by 2-day DHL.