Which eheim for my 20g?

i haven't used the ecco but i'd recommend at least the 2215 possibly even the 2217 if you feel comfortable turning down the flow on the quick disconnects - its better to have too much filtration than not enough

Oh and I also have a marine land 200 and an aquaclear 30 and a POS 10 gallon HOB on the 20 gallon currently. Just looking for a cleaner tank!

I am not sure about which HOB's I'd keep on this tank. Depends what filter I get because it is my understanding the 2215 is stronger than the 2232?

"Cleaner" as in clearer water, or "cleaner" as in less gear hanging off the thing? If it's the former, just use some purigen in a mesh bag. If it's the latter, I get it. But as much trouble as I had figuring out whether a canister investment for something as little as my 30g was worthwhile, I'd have even more trouble deciding on one for a 20g. If you have the money to burn, go for it! But if i had the money to burn and were in your shoes, I'd keep the HOB's on my 20g, buy a canister, and then a bigger tank to install it in

haha I like the way you think. I just am sick of having to do mantain my HOB's. Plus I know an eheim will last me pretty much forever. The flow is always getting weak and i just figured my fishies would enjoy a good canister. I have the money, that isn't the issue, but I don't have any space in my apartment for a bigger tank or I would certainly have one.

And I meant cleaner water, not really the gear on the back, that is not a big concern.

I think I'd go with the 2215.

I am one who would be a little concerned about dialing back the flow via the quick connects.

I wouldn't want to put too much back pressure on the pump head.

Momotaro said:

I think I'd go with the 2215.

I am one who would be a little concerned about dialing back the flow via the quick connects.

I wouldn't want to put too much back pressure on the pump head.

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that isn't a good idea at all, those disconnects aren't restricters you would be begging for a problem.

It isn't a bad idea at all either as long as you dial down the outflow not the inflow, then you have no worry of starving the actual pump/impeller/motor of water.

I have a 2217 on an ADA 60-p with the outflow dialed back to around 75% and it works great. Have not cleaned the filter in over 6 months and flow is excellent. I also have modified the outflow bar to make it fit the right side of the tank so the flow goes all the way across the tank from right to left.

Another way you could modify ANY outflow so you wouldn't need to turn down the outflow is to drill out the holes in the spray bar. This way you will only decrease the outflow pressure but not the actual GPM flow rate. I have done this a few times over the years and it works great as well.

PS- $100 for a brand new 2215 w/media is a smokin deal! Where would you be getting it from?

From an awesome planted tanker! (swap and shop WTB ad I put up)

So would you say, that for the price difference, and the fact that yes, someday, I will have a bigger tank, be good reason to go with a 2215?

Phish said:

From an awesome planted tanker! (swap and shop WTB ad I put up)

So would you say, that for the price difference, and the fact that yes, someday, I will have a bigger tank, be good reason to go with a 2215?

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100% yes.

2215 at full power is fine, i would just run a spray bar instead of a normal return

My dad uses a 2215 in his 20 gal. At full power, it is too much. He uses the quick connect valve to control. If you use the OUTPUT, that is fine. Eheim actually recommends using valves on the output of that exact filter to control flow. Maybe not the quick connect valve, but a valve is a valve...just not as precise to control.

I use a 2217 in my 55 and love the flow.

Since you want to do away with the HOB filter then the filter is perfect for you. Spend a little extra cash and purchase a inline heater from hydror and you will have no equiptment in your tank! I am never looking back to big heaters in my tank.

i just got a 2213 a week or so ago
i wouldn't recommend Eheim to anyone
don't believe the hype, get something else

oaomcg said:

i just got a 2213 a week or so ago
i wouldn't recommend Eheim to anyone
don't believe the hype, get something else

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so what was wrong with yours?

accordztech said:

so what was wrong with yours?

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people say the motor is almost silent but i can hear it from across the room
in my quest for a solution to the noise, all i could find is that there are a TON of other people who have the same problem. not to mention their lack of support and an extremely minimal owners manual. i'd return it if it wasn't a gift. i'll never buy another eheim or recommend one to anyone else.

the ehiems get quieter over time or at least they seem to for me. I can hear a little tiny buzz sometimes but it really isnt bad at all. If there is any other noise in the room i cant hear it. (they get a lot of air in them which seems to cause all the noise)

my dad got an old ehiem 2013 like 20 something years ago it has be used off and on but it has run most of those 20 years without ever breaking (damn thing randomly stoped working now)

Don't see how you can say Ehiem is crap. All canisters make some noise, just not a highly noticable noise. I can barely notice my Fluval 205 and it's on a 20G tank *rated for 40*.

If your ehiem is making a bunch of noise it's because you didn't install something or start it right. Couple friend's and my uncle use ehiem filters and they are super quiet. More so than that of the Fluval canisters.

mine used to make noise, but no were near as loud as my rena xp3 (which wasnt loud at all). But I found that if you put it in and let it fill all the way from empty to full it isnt as loud. Now its perfect and my analog timer ticks louder haha.

There are a good amount of people who had your issues, and then there are a good amount of people who didnt. weird huh

the filter is not super loud but it is loud enough for me to hear the motor humming from across the room. i've followed all the instructions i could find to purge the air multiple times and i'm sure that it isn't trapped air making the sound. i think it's just the motor whirring. it's not obnoxiously loud but i think there is a lot of hype about how quiet these are. from what i've read (including this thread) they aren't the super-silent filters that the fan-boys would have you believe. it's not really any quieter than my HOBs

that said, it functions great. just not what i was expecting