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It looks, pretty much, like a dead oak branch. Which pretty much anyone can find, and boil, till sinkable and stick in their tank. Why are people paying $20 for something that looks like a stick they could find themselves on a 20 minute walk?
 

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Manzanita is quite rot resistant and can persist for years in a fishtank. Wood from most common types of forest trees, on the other hand, will start to rot right away if placed underwater, turning to mush and fouling the water.

Oak is especially rot-prone in wet situations.
 

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Cubic zirconia looks a lot like a diamond, but the properties, and therefore values, are quite different.
Oak sucks for aquariums, manzanita lasts effectively forever.
 

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I couldnt find a decent looking dry stick or a rock here in NYC if I spent all day looking for one.
You might try Central Park :) I hear there's a few rocks and sticks there.

I guess the answer is because this type of wood will last, persist, when underwater for many years? I understand easily for other types of driftwood, because they're attractive, but this kind just seems like a stick. Not unattractive sticks, but very familiar sticks.
 

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First of all, depending on the size, manzanita branches usually go for 1-2$ each on the hobby market. And no, manzanita looks nothing like dead oak branches. For the most part, manzanita comes in a greater variety of more attractive shapes and sizes which makes it more desirable, along with being rot resistant.
Another thing about manzanita is that it grows pretty much exclusively along the west coast, mostly in the pacific northwest. So while I could go on a 20 minute walk and come back with a full hardscape, somebody in, say, west virginia doesn't really have that luxury. Not to mention people who don't have time or access to go collecting.
 

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to help the manzy side out it really does last forever other than for plecos eating the wood and the wood is so intriguing due to its natural growth.

 

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So while I could go on a 20 minute walk and come back with a full hardscape, somebody in, say, west virginia doesn't really have that luxury.
LOL, I hope you only mean this for manzy, because Wild, Wonderful West Virgina didn't get this slogan for no reason. :icon_mrgr


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I hoped so. You cracked me up! Thanks for that. :proud: I am super jealous of the manzanita. I would love to see pictures of it alive. I am off to google.

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http://www.laspilitas.com/groups/ma...Manzanita/Northern_california_Manzanitas.html

This is a stunning plant. No wonder we pay so much for the wood. Now I want a live one!
Haha, no you don't, more often than not they look like this!
http://www.friscovista.com/images/sobrante-ridge/alameda-manzanita-IMG_4784.jpg
 

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I just hope that all the people who sell it are being responsible, and either collecting it from dead shrubs in the wild, or planting it specifically for harvesting and selling.

To think that people might be just going around chopping down all these various size trees, just for a swap n shop thread, that would be sad. So yeah, hopefully, there's just plenty of dead and dying branches out there in the wild.

That being said, NOTHING that I've seen has the kinds of twists, zigs, and zags that manzy branches have. Definitely not oak. So I don't fully understand what the OP is talking about.
 

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Well it is a PITA, if it is fresh anyways, but where I live its easy to go just go out and harvest plenty of sun-dried, dead wood.
 

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I just hope that all the people who sell it are being responsible, and either collecting it from dead shrubs in the wild, or planting it specifically for harvesting and selling.

To think that people might be just going around chopping down all these various size trees, just for a swap n shop thread, that would be sad. So yeah, hopefully, there's just plenty of dead and dying branches out there in the wild.

That being said, NOTHING that I've seen has the kinds of twists, zigs, and zags that manzy branches have. Definitely not oak. So I don't fully understand what the OP is talking about.
No, not really, most people actually consider manzanita a weed/pest plant. My dad routinely had to clear trees from our property and burn them to make room for trees like pine and cedar, only for the field he cleared to be full of young manzanita trees again just a year or two later.

People don't seem to realize how prevalent manzanita really is. I've said before, there's probably enough manzanita on our 24 acre property to supply the entire aquarium trade for more than a year, and I'm not kidding.

Trust me, it's no tragedy if somebody cuts down a tree or two :icon_roll
 

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Trust me, it's no tragedy if somebody cuts down a tree or two
As long as they're your own trees lol. Don't go cutting them on your neighbor's land without permission, or on public land...It's illegal even to remove the dead branches on public land without a permit. Technically the dirt on the bottoms of your shoes after a hike through the national forest is stolen property once you leave the forest! So...City Park isn't really a viable option. =)

It is beautiful wood, and some of us are lucky to have an overabundance of it in our backyards. It's like mesquite trees in Texas...I love to use mesquite for grilling and smoking meat, but buying it costs an arm and a leg in most places. Then you go to Texas, and the cattle ranches will PAY you to cut it down!
 
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