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Hello.

I have a small tank that has some scuds, cherries and snails. It's pretty much been in my loft forever and things are breeding out of control. I would like to turn this tank into an all moss tank so I need everything out of there 100%. Obviously, netting things out is a giant waste of time and you can never get everything 100%.

Can I just drop something in the tank that would kill all shrimp/snails except plants and fish? I'll have all day to waste on this so maybe there is something I can pick up from a store? I did see some liquid medicine that gets rid of snails but not sure whether that is fish/plant safe.

Thanks for your help.
 

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Pennies, I heard some guy lost shrimps when his students dropped pennies in his tank. Hey if you don't want your shrimps i'll take em.
Yeah I thought about dropping a small copper pipe but not sure if that would permanently damage some of my fish. I need a 100% sure way that gets it done within a few minutes or hours.

Unfortunately I've made up my mind to just get rid of the shrimp instead of catching them. Much easier and less time consuming. :bounce:
 

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Are you emptying the tank? I'll gladly take as many shrimp and snails as you will pack up. If you're redoing the tank why not just dump it all out, clean it up and start from scratch?
Please see my post above (we posted at the same time :))

I have some nice moss carpet that is tied down and I do not want to pull it all out and start over. I also have some nice endlers so breaking down the tank definitely is not an option since I do not have anywhere to put them while I cycle all over again.
 

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I imagine putting in anything that will instantly kill all inverts wouldn't be too good for your endlers either, especially if you have any babies in there. Aren't there shrimp traps out there that people use?
 

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Coppersafe will *probably* work on the shrimp and snails, but not the scuds. Nothing kills scuds, not even death itself. Lol.

I know that No-Planaria will work on some types of snails too.
 

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Hedge,
Algaefix kills all inverts while not disturbing the tank cycle. Its also safe for fish.
Really? ALL INVERTS? I find that pretty hard to believe as I tried at least 10 different chemicals to kill copepods, nematodes, and seed shrimp without any luck. If that's true then I'll be in and out of my PetSmart faster than you can say, "No more nematodes."
 

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Please see my post above (we posted at the same time :))

I have some nice moss carpet that is tied down and I do not want to pull it all out and start over. I also have some nice endlers so breaking down the tank definitely is not an option since I do not have anywhere to put them while I cycle all over again.

But wouldn't killing all the shrimp and snails cause a colossal ammonia spike where you'd have to pull the endlers out anyway?
 

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Hedge,
Algaefix kills all inverts while not disturbing the tank cycle. Its also safe for fish.
Great, thanks for the suggestion. I hope I can find it at Petco tomorrow.

But wouldn't killing all the shrimp and snails cause a colossal ammonia spike where you'd have to pull the endlers out anyway?
I'll do some water changes and suck the dead ones out with a hose. It's still much easier than trying to catch all the shrimp/scuds. I actually think it's impossible unless I'd rip out all the moss.
 

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It would make way more sense to trap them. You'll end up with an ammonia spike plus you'll have to find all the dead things in the moss.
Not sure if you've ever had scuds but they are impossible to get rid of....I'm sure others can chime in.

The only way to get them out is to tear down the tank or nuke it with something that kills them.
 

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I'd try to trap as many of the snails and shrimp as possible before killing them off. The ammonia spike from them decaying, if there are as many as you are saying, would cause issues for the Endlers.
The Endlers should take care of the scuds and baby shrimp.
I could swing by on my way from Philly later in the week and net/trap most of the shrimp and haul them away for you ;D
I used a few pennies in a 2 gallon bucket to rid plants of the snails I couldn't find before transferring them to my tank. Wasn't a couple hour deal, but it worked. I don't see the pipe being an issue. Soak it in hot vinegar to clean it, then give it a cold water rinse and you should be fine.

But if you plan mass genocide, I would seriously consider placing the Endlers in another container and doing water changes daily or every other day. If you have filter media in the container (even with no circulation), every other day should be okay. Just keep it bare bottom and vac the bottom to minimize ammonia spikes. Small cheap plastic containers, paint mixing containers ($1-$2), will work temporarily. I would vacuum the tank as well as you can every couple of days to remove as many bodies and decaying matter as you can until everything stabilizes before putting the Endlers back in.

I will come over with a bucket and remove as many shrimp and snails as possible. I'm heading to Philly tomorrow and coming back sometime next week, my schedule is a little flexible.
 
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