[orchidman]

does anyone know what river these three fish are native to? im trying to find a name for my biotope but i dont want it to be something that is incorrect.

names i like are acuario de rio ***** and acuario de rio de janeiro. but idk if these fish are all native to either. are they?

the fish are angelfish, oto. affinis, and rummynose tetras

thanks!

 

[OverStocked]

They aren't from a single biotope. Otos are not found in the amazon or orinco regions. Angels are from the amazon basin.

Rummy's are found in the amazon and orinco.

 

[orchidman]

where are otos found?

 

[OverStocked]

very quickly:
Otocinclus are widely distributed east of the Andes of South America, throughout the lowlands from northern Venezuela to northern Argentina, but is generally absent from the Amazon and the Orinoco lowlands.[3]

From the wiki entry.

 

[orchidman]

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile76.html

says they are from S america, brazil, and the amazon basin.

 

[orchidman]

otocinclus.com says they are from the orinoco....

i was mainly wondering about the rummie's but good to know about the otos as well. i just want to have the most acurate thing i can have. but its hard because numerous sites say that otos are absent from the amazon and orinoco but others say they dwell there...

 

[OverStocked]

http://www.ecology.su.se/pdfs/axenrot/fish.pdf

Takes some digging but it gives pretty detailed info on a few specific species. The entire article isn't necessarily relevant to this.

The reality in the end is that "biotopes" are really misnomers, at best. With more than 1 or 2 species it is really almost impossible to make a single tank under several hundred gallons that represents an accurate habitat of all the fish.

 

[orchidman]

so maybe i should name the biotope something very broad. like south american or something of the like.

thaks for the link and the insight! thats why i started this thread!

 

[carpenoctem]

Otocinclus are found east of the Andes mountains from Venezuela to nothern Argentina. -straight from wikipedia

also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilnitMs1LRk

 

[OverStocked]

Yeah, that is part of why I don't use "biotope" as a descriptor to my tanks.

 

[carpenoctem]

wow everyone responded at the same time...

 

[OverStocked]

wow everyone responded at the same time...

I bet you surf in tabbed browsing... Cause I posted what you had here like 15 minutes ago!

I do that all the time when I open up a bunch of tabs, post, then see the comments!

 

[kuni]

http://www.ecology.su.se/pdfs/axenrot/fish.pdf

Takes some digging but it gives pretty detailed info on a few specific species. The entire article isn't necessarily relevant to this.

The reality in the end is that "biotopes" are really misnomers, at best. With more than 1 or 2 species it is really almost impossible to make a single tank under several hundred gallons that represents an accurate habitat of all the fish.

I agree. Biotopes work best with a small number of fish/plant species.

 

[orchidman]

i thought three was a small number haha.

not saying this is true in this instince. but sometimes wiki isnt always reliable.

for AGA there is a biotope category, which is what i'll be entering. so thats why its a biotope. any ideas for names

 

[astrosag]

Number is irrelevant if you pick distinctly different fish - its all about selection!

I don't think you should pick fish and then try to drive a singular bio-type from that. You should pick a bio-type, the fish available in that bio-type and then pick the fish. That way makes much more sense...especially if you're competing. You wanna compete then ya gotta go all out and do it the right way

Sounds like you're trying to make it work with fish you already have

 

[orchidman]

well when i bought the fish i was inder the impression that these three fish would be acurate to biotope together. from a thread i started here.......

 

[astrosag]

Oh, lol.

I'm sure you can find a happy medium where the biotope is as close as it can get for all three. Maybe not perfect but still pretty awesome?

GL!

 

[kuni]

i thought three was a small number haha.

not saying this is true in this instince. but sometimes wiki isnt always reliable.

for AGA there is a biotope category, which is what i'll be entering. so thats why its a biotope. any ideas for names

That's the one case where you do want to pay close attention to which fish are actually found in the habitat. I'd recommend downgrading to one or two types. I think I told you this in your other post, come to think of it.

 

[orchidman]

yeah thats what you told me. but i think we were talking about nixing the ancistrus that i planned there. but keeping the otos. i think ill just call this a south american biotope or something broad like that. so i dont have much room for conflict

 

[orchidman]

what if i called it acuario de rio *****. and under the notes or whatever, say that i used rio ***** for black river. not the actual river, Rio *****