[snakebite]

im thinking about purchasing a bag or 2 of turface pro league(grey). Can anyone who experimented with this substrate give me some feedback on this product? i have read so much negitive and postitive things about it, it just so confusing...help me out

 

[biowheel]

Give us a link.

 

[Betowess]

http://www.bharada.com/aquaria_120.html

 

[snakebite]

wow thats an amazing tank... is that yours?

i just like to know some feedback from anyone
who experienced with turface

 

[Betowess]

That tank is one of the moderators, Bill Harada. He has told me its very light weight stuff, really high CEC rating and its inert. I just couldn't find grey colored in WA state, or I would have chosen it for sure. Great price at $12 per 50# bag. You can find some more stuff on it by using the search forum tab. Its suppose to be nice stuff and is inert, not like soilmaster select which lowers KH/pH in a big way. There was a thread on it with links to info off the Krib I posted a week back in Substrate. And another link recently I saw showing mineral content etc of lots of different substrates. Turface was right near the top.

BTW, welcome to the forum __________. lol

 

[snakebite]

i appreciate all the help and info about turface...so i think ill go with turface pro league(grey)!!

would i need to add anything below it like what bill did... example black diamond?

 

[bharada]

The Diamond Black is not necessary, but a friend recommended it so I tried it. A light dusting of peat moss on the bottom glass and a healthy dose of mulm from an established tank's substrate/filter would do just as well and cost a lot less.

As Bob (Betowess) mentions, it's very light weight so a 50# bag goes a long way.

And find some very fine point tweezers to plant your stem plants with. Using large tongs/tweezers/hemostats/fingers makes setting stems close together nearly impossible as the tips will displace too much of the surrounding material and uproot nearby stems.

 

[aman74]

Its suppose to be nice stuff and is inert, not like soilmaster select which lowers KH/pH in a big way.

Is that experience with SMS universal? I've seen some posts about it, but it seemed to be a case of it happening to some people and not others. I'm wondering if is due to batch consistency or what.

I actually want the PH lowering abilities and was going to go with AS, but now I may be doing 2 tanks and the SMS would be much cheaper.

 

[Glouglou]

Turface

You can see some good infos on my post:

Turface better than Soilmaster

 

[Betowess]

Is that experience with SMS universal? I've seen some posts about it, but it seemed to be a case of it happening to some people and not others. I'm wondering if is due to batch consistency or what.

I actually want the PH lowering abilities and was going to go with AS, but now I may be doing 2 tanks and the SMS would be much cheaper.

I think its pretty universal that SMS lowers KH/pH. Somewhat dramatically, sometimes too dramatically for some. I suppose you could buy a couple of bags and test one to be sure its what you want. It wouldn't too expensive on one bag.

 

[Finch_man]

The only con of using turface is when you vacuum if you do the gravel would get suck up with the dirt and water, because it very light...