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im collecting a variety of strips to put over the tank. i know i have the minimum but i figured if i have the extra lights, why not just throw em on as well. i have funny shaped tank so i can fit several lights on it. but is there a point where it is too many watts per gallon? they would be 10k 20k and 6500. will it roast plants? if heat has nothing to do it then as long as more co2 is added eveything gets ok?
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depends on what kind of lighting you are using...

T12, T8, CF, T5, T5 HO, MH....
most likely it looks like it might be a bunch of strip lights. like the simple floresent strips. if i need ill replace the bulbs with the ones at petsmart that have the picture of a plant on it. about as technicall as i understand the plant light technology. 6 to 8 20 watt bulbs for a 30 gal tank seems like it would be a lot.
most likely it looks like it might be a bunch of strip lights. like the simple floresent strips. if i need ill replace the bulbs with the ones at petsmart that have the picture of a plant on it. about as technicall as i understand the plant light technology. 6 to 8 20 watt bulbs for a 30 gal tank seems like it would be a lot.
just because they have a picture of a plant on them, doesn't mean that they are the best bulbs for your plants/fixture. Save yourself the money, go to home depot or lowes, and get 'sunshine' or 'daylight' bulbs.

The bulbs/fixtures you are talking about aren't that great for growing plants, no matter how many watts they are. They don't penetrate the water column deep enough to support anything but lower-light plants. I wouldn't waste the wattage on the tank, maybe 3x 20wt bulbs on your tank.
thats awsome its that simple. but i just got offered a 130 watt pc light. for a 30 gal that is what 4x watt per gal? should that cover the tank as far as light needs?
at 4+ wpg, you better have CO2 and have a firm understanding of ferts
at 4+ wpg, you better have CO2 and have a firm understanding of ferts
Evercl92 is right on this one. I am running 4.48 wpg and the tank sits on the edge of disaster. It isn't that big of a deal to keep and maintain, but I am afraid to go on vacation. I feel like one thing that is missed for a couple of days and the tank is going to go out of whack.

My Algae issues are coming under control, my plants look incredible, and my fish are happy. It did take me a while to achieve balance though.
...Save yourself the money, go to home depot or lowes, and get 'sunshine' or 'daylight' bulbs...
Interesting that is what someone told me when I set up my 10 gallon high tech tank....just use the 6500 K daylight compact fluorescents and save your money. So, I thought hell I am new and know nothing so best to follow the advise. I got two GE 15 watt 6500 K daylight fluorescents dirt cheap from Wal-Mart. Put them in the canopy bulb sockets for a total of 30 watts(3 watts per gallon, 30 ppm c02, fluorite substrate, and EI fert dosing - off I was to the races). Plant growth was pathetic to say the least, algae issues were severe. I never suspected the lights. So just out of curiosity, just cause everything else failed to fix the problem, I replaced the bulbs with the far more expensive 20 watt corallife colormax for a total of 40 watts. Boom, plants did 100% better. I don't work for coralife, but this is what I saw, so I am not 100% convinced that the cheaper compact fluorescents, daylight or otherwise, will give you the same results as a speciality compact fluorescent like corallife.

Just to make sure this was not an isolated incident, I just set up another 10 gallon test tank with the cheap GE wal-mart compact fluorescents, 30 ppm c02 and Aquasoil Amazonia II substrate. Let's see what happens this time around. If the plants do pathetic again, I have another spare canopy with the 2 20 watt corallife colarmax fluorescents on standby ready to replace and test.
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Just to make sure this was not an isolated incident. I just set up another test tank with the cheap GE wal-mart compact fluorescents, 30 ppm c02 and Aquasoil Amazonia II substrate. Let's see what happens this time around.
I by no means think that cheapo CF bulbs are as good as coralife or other 'real' ones. There's no compare, personally.

I'm referring to T8 or T12 bulbs. At my LFS, the 'plant' bulbs are in the $15 neighborhood. These are no better (from what I saw, actually worse) than the ones you can get at walmart for less than $4
well i think i may use the 10k pc bulbs. 55 watts each for 110 or two 65 watt bulbs. depends on which light strip i can get cheaper.

they only way to learn to swim is to get into the water. the only thing that looks like a large learning curve is the nutritional additives. the co2 doesnt seem all that complicated, its supposed to be kept at a certain level: 30. but i like the idea of trying to learn something new. i just want to start out right. you can finish a marathon even if you get lost, but all you get with bad shoes is blisters...
I have had 10000K bulbs and 6700K bulbs. Now I have both. 10,000k is a little too white IMO and 6700K is a little too yellow. Now that I have both, it looks perfect.

If you boost the lights to a signifigant level over your tank, you will need to boost CO2 injection. Along with that, you will also need to boost your fertilization with both macros and micros. The more light you add, the more your plants need CO2 and nutrition.

Not knowing what your tank looks like or the dimentions, it is kind of hard to reccommend a fixture. If you had a canopy, you could use AHSupply.com fixtures. I plan on a 75 with a row of 2 55W 10,000K a row of 2 Actnic bulbs, and a row of 2 6700K bulbs. I want the Actics just for fish viewing and a dawn/dusk effect. The tank will have pressurized CO2 via an inline DYI reactor and regular dosing of nitrates, phosphates, and potassium (every other day with micros inbetween).

Edit: Be cautious about buying the cheapest fixture. I have seen some out there that have a white reflector which isn't nearly as effective as a mirror like reflector. I personally think that the reflector is a big key, and maybe even more so than the wattage of the light. There is currently a thread where a guy that is using both a coralife fixture and ahsupply lights thinks that the growth is better on the ahsupply setup. I think that it probably has more to do with the reflectors than anything.
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i think i want to try to build my own canopy. cover the inside with that thin metal from the hardware store. i cant remember what it is called.its a 30 gal long, 36" by 18"
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