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The pico lab!

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Last year, I picked up three acrylic betta boxes on clearance at a big box for $4 each. The dimensions are 8" x 4.75" x 5.5". Now, I'm no expert with pico tanks - I tried last year and failed miserably. Into the closet they went until I had the courage to look myself in the mirror again.

Here's the most recent attempt. I only had two lights, so I only set up two of them. Ideally, this would be a triptych of tanks in 3 different styles, but I'm pretty sure these lights are no longer available.

The lights had no attachments/mounting brackets, so I had to fabricate a stand from - yes, that's right - foamboard, haha! It looks much better than you would think - but with that slightly ghetto edge that I've come to know and love about my projects. I will likely spray it all black and seal it. So, without further ado...

Specs:

Tanks:
1L Acrylic betta box

Lights:
13W 5000K PC light

Filtration:
Currently no filter, but I have an unusual plan in mind that involves a 2 gallon tank, 2 Tom's nano filters and some airline tubing... hence the "lab" part.

Carbon:
Excel dosing 2x/week

Ferts:
Liquid ferts daily (about 3ml of modified PPS Standard solution) Micros weekly.

If I still get a bunch of algae issues, I'll w/c daily instead.

Tank 1 (currently in dry-start for HC):

Hardscape:

River stone and manzanita. I think I want to add more stones, but we'll see as the HC grows in.

Plants:

HC, Anubias nana petite, Eleocharis 'belem' (if what I have actually grows), and maybe some rotala mini type 2 or another smaller stem.



Tank 2:

Hardscape:

Zebra stone (I know some folks hate the stuff, but I actually like it in some ways)

Plants:

Flame moss



And both together with a shot glass and ruler for scale:



Next up:

The third tank awaits a treatment. Perhaps a clip-on light and some low-tech plants? Not sure. Gonna stew on this for a bit...



Until then, I have to get my brain around some sort of pico-filter for these...
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I like what you're doing here. Very interested to see what you have in mind for the filtration system. I understand it in my mind but curious to see how it plays out. Both tanks look great. Any fauna plans?
Thanks! As far as fauna, I'm not sure. I will have a ridiculous quantity of RCS in a few weeks, though. I'll think about it. It all depends on how the filter issue pans out.
Those are sweet little setups. I have three old vintage 2.5G metaframes and I have pondered lining them up like that for a triptych.
Nice set ups indeed. Just wondering, is it just me or are the tanks unstable/unbalanced? Look at the shadows at the underneath. It almost looks like the front is floating.
Love what you've done with the
hardscape in those. Interested to see what you come up with for filtration. Are you going to be putting bettas in there? What is your substrate? What was the failure the first time 'round?
What about trying to do over flows from one to the next, then a filter that cycles the water back to the first tank. You could use siphon tubes instead of overflows too.
Those are sweet little setups. I have three old vintage 2.5G metaframes and I have pondered lining them up like that for a triptych.
I love the idea of either 3 of the same style or 3 contrasting styles of tanks together. Plus, it satisfies my collectoritis need to have many tanks and plants, haha...

Nice set ups indeed. Just wondering, is it just me or are the tanks unstable/unbalanced? Look at the shadows at the underneath. It almost looks like the front is floating.
It really looks that way, but it's just the shadows and light. Don't worry - It's level!

Love what you've done with the
hardscape in those. Interested to see what you come up with for filtration. Are you going to be putting bettas in there? What is your substrate? What was the failure the first time 'round?
Thanks! The fauna depends on what I come up with for filtration. My
substrate is Fluorite Black Sand (sorry, I forgot to mention that). Failure was neglecting to realize that these little tanks are inherently unstable due to the small volume of water. any little shift in water quality is pretty dramatic at this scale. I wasn't really prepared for it at the time. Come to think of it, this was more like 2 years ago...

What about trying to do over flows from one to the next, then a filter that cycles the water back to the first tank. You could use siphon tubes instead of overflows too.
I was thinking of something like this, actually. The hangup would be creating the siphon from one to the next and keeping it going. also, that would mean one tank would be perpetually lower level than the other. This is why I was thinking two Tom's nano filters as pumps and using the 2.5 gal as a sort of sump or building two nano canister filters from PVC or some similar container. Any thoughts? Maybe I'll draw up some plans and post them for review...
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The siphon is pretty easy to do. reefers do it all the time for external overflows. You can also look at the fish bridge journal here.
I don't know what the water level differential would be but I don't think it would be much.
Nice set ups indeed. Just wondering, is it just me or are the tanks unstable/unbalanced? Look at the shadows at the underneath. It almost looks like the front is floating.
YOu are seeing the effect of the clear acrylic.
The flame moss burned a bit from too much Excel - not much, but enough for me to back off on it a bit. Did a 50% WC and am going with 1-3 drops Excel 3x/week. Also, my macros will NOT be dosed at 3 ML/day, haha... more like 3 drops/day.

Still mulling the filter issue. I could build a HOB trickle filter and use the pump from a Tom's filter to run it. It would require me to figure out a good overflow, but Jason's concept is sound. I'd just have to make the overflow myself. I bought a box of 100 clear airline elbows (couldn't find them in smaller qty), so I have tons of those to play with. Maybe I could make a clear overflow and spraybar using acrylic sheet, those airline elbows, and some rhinox tubing? Hmm... just thinking out loud here... The good thing is that I have the extra tank to test these ideas out on before I connect them to the planted ones. Looks like I'll be experimenting a bit... any recommendations on how to cut 1/8"-1/4" acrylic/lexan/plexiglass? I have razor saws and X-acto knives...
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Haha cutting acrylic is fun. I hate how I spent about 10 dollars getting an acyrlic cutter when I found out that I could easily use my knife (even my house key).

Just score and snap. And incase it comes off edgy, just sand/file it down.

Here's another option for your filter since you already have the pump and acrylic sheets, is to make an AIO tank, or make a sump out of the empty tank (I'm assuming you have an aquarium safe silicone at home). Pretty much is make the extra tank a filter and use the pump to circulate the water. I'm not sure if you catch my drift or not...
Haha cutting acrylic is fun. I hate how I spent about 10 dollars getting an acyrlic cutter when I found out that I could easily use my knife (even my house key).

Just score and snap. And incase it comes off edgy, just sand/file it down.

Here's another option for your filter since you already have the pump and acrylic sheets, is to make an AIO tank, or make a sump out of the empty tank (I'm assuming you have an aquarium safe silicone at home). Pretty much is make the extra tank a filter and use the pump to circulate the water. I'm not sure if you catch my drift or not...
Thanks for the tips! I assumed it was a score-and-snap situation, but I've never cut acrylic before, haha...

Also, the "sump" is almost exactly what I have been chewing on. I originally considered using the 2.5G AGA for the sump (larger water column, more stable) I suppose I could swing that, but it's so big - I'm not sure I want it to take up that much space. Now, I'm considering building the sump as a two-fer: long enough to handle both tanks, with two pumps for returns - sort of like what Jason mentioned. There is also his idea for the overflow. So many options!
it looks nice! Do you have the updated pics of the setup?
Thanks! These are as recent as they get for now. These pics are from last weekend :) I'll post more in a week or so - still has some growing to do!
Just one small step forward...

I have done some tinkering, but nothing solid yet. As of now, I'm just using the motors as powerheads to keep circulation up, so we can avoid any cyano or other nuisances.

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So, I'll have to update more completely later, but to give a brief preview....

I chopped the filter attachment to the Tom's filter, cut down the sponge and reattached it as a pico powerhead/sponge filter. It has been working great. The pico-sump idea was good, but those pumps don't tolerate any kind of head pressure, so that was a dead-end short of upgrading the pump. At any rate, things were ok until a few days ago. BGA. Yuck. Not sure why it appeared but I hit it with peroxide, and upped the KNO3. Hopefully it will go away. I have DIY CO2 running on one, and plan on getting it going for the other as well. Pics later :)


Restart. The cyano came back even after a peroxide treatment. I stripped it all down, rinsed the heck out of the substrate, and started over. Now, I have some Shou stone in the left tank. I attached the flame moss to two steel mesh grids and covered the edges with substrate. It looks great, now. As a soon as it fills in, I'll have a pretty fantastic carpet. It was growing well before, and this one didn't have an issue with the cyano, but I wanted to redo the substrate, and trim the dead flame moss off (from the peroxide treatment).

The second tank I rethought altogether. I created a "u" shaped slope with the substrate, and added a couple stones. I also dismantled the wood and rescaped it. The HC from before was dead from all the peroxide, so I replaced it with healthy HC from my Do!Aqua 10 gallon. I added some cuttings of Staurogyne 049, a couple stems of rotala "magenta" and a bunch of lindernia varigatus.

I may use the lindernia for the entire background - I'm not sure. It's a really pretty little plant. I'm likely going to get rid of the big bunch of nana petite, as it isn't siting well with me. I may just need to trim the roots. We'll see. When the Stauro grows in, It'll look completely different.

The big change is new lights for both tanks. I picked up a pair of 13W Archaea lights, and they are just right for these little things. I'm ok with the filters right now, but not for long. I'm going to use onefang's idea with the Toms Aqualifter and the prefilter as soon as I can afford to swap them out. The Tom's nano filter is great, but it creates this huge shadow beneath it, and I need to clear as much space in there as I can - there's not much to begin with. I'll also have to work out a more elegant CO2 solution...

My computer is ancient, and it's giving me hell with my pics. I'll post them via Tapatalk, but be warned: they will be crappy shots.
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PS - my co2 is now hooked up to
my pressurized system via the manifold. I love that thing!
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