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Hey everyone,

My girlfriend and I decided to go the cheaper route for now and use the tank that I had stashed away in the attic. (We were planning on buying a new 20 gallon long and making a stand) This is a 20 gallon high tank that my family has had for about 15 years or so. Its still in great condition silicone wise and holds water fine. See:



Filtration
Unfortunately the ancient HOB that went with it is not very conducive to planted tanks. Which gave me an excuse to order this from Bigals (they had a sale) $125 for a 2217, quite the bargain.



Now, I know what you are thinking, how in the world is this little 20 gallon going to contain all the flow from a 2217? Well I plan on more evenly dispersing the water with one of these (I ordered both) and throttling down my outflow by half.





These are Eheim's versions of the stainless steel outflow pipes that people like so much, and better yet, they are only $10 a pop instead of $70.

We also plan on adding a Cerges reactor to the system to help reduce the flow even more while adding diy CO2. I'll be going double bottling changing one every week.

Lighting
We also wanted to have a good light fixture capable of handling a wide variety of options so we chose the Nova Extreme T5HO 2X24 Watt 24" freshwater fixture.



We plan on doing mostly crypts and sword species and perhaps a buce or two with anubias and moss. So we will probably only be using the 10k bulb to start off with. We'll see how it looks and see.

Substrate
Yesterday we had a lot of fun playing with dirt! We just started our mineralizing process for MTSoil and its looking good so far!



We will then cap it with this:



Pretty good buy 100lbs for $10.00

Plans!

So we are still very much in the works with this as far as layout and plants go:
We definitely want heavy root feeders to avoid the hassle of stem plants. I am very familiar with Crypts and sword species so we will probably do a bunch of those. (I've had my eye on E. Kleiner prinz, a big pocket of Ballansae, C. affinis metallic red, C. Wendtii Florida Sunset, and a big ole carpet of C. Parva(At least 15 pots worth, I want it lush, thankfully a 20 gallon high's foreground is rather small) and if I'm lucky some C. 'flamingo'.

My girlfriend also wants some DW and rocks tastefully placed in their too.
(Its so awesome that she's into doing fish tanks with me) :)

We are going to be doing a light EI dosing, with weekly or bi weekly water changes. I'm going for lowest maintenance high tech tank as possible. I'm thinking 7 day medicine organizer for fertilizers. So doing the weekly water change and fixing the food and medicine for the week should hopefully stay around 45 minutes of tank time only a week.

We haven't quite decided on fish, although starting with Neocaridina shrimp is a must. I reckon with all the over filtration we have and the predicted plant mass, that we will be able to fit quite a few fishies. :hihi:

Things Left to Buy

-Dry Fertz
-Dolomite, Muriate of Potash, and Clay
-Drop checker
-Pinch, Dash, and other irregular teaspoon measure tools.
-Plants
-Drift Wood
-Going to try and find rocks locally and give em a good vinegar soak.
-Maybe a hydor heater, we have several submersibles and I think I'd rather shell out money on my parva carpet than a heater. (If flow is too great with my eheim 2217 however, I will get a hydor just for the decreased flow).
-Still have to chug my 2 liters of coke for the reactors and get the airline hose.
-Also need to order 4 check valves for co2 and 1 T valve.

I reckon that's all for now folks!
I'll update it as we get closer to Easter and Spring break!
TTFN!
Please comment! I'll be happy to hear your opinions.
~Joshua
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One question; Is that you playing the piano on your video?
By the way, the Downoi I wanted to give you has all melted!!!! Must have been grown with CO2 or some way that it didn't like my tank.(that's one reason I wanted you to have some cuz I know you would have kept it alive.) Well, $15 down the drain. Went ahead and ordered a CO2 setup from Bettatail and I'll build the regulator I have later. Hope finals went well.
 

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http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=241410&highlight=embed

There ya go! Ya, definitely missed that video. Looks great! Those green neons are a nice compliment to the scape. What's that you have tucked away on the right there?? Looks like a young snow white or marbled nana? :D

Thanks Duck! I agree man. It is so very peaceful after work or school to go just sit in front of my tank and watch the school move all over the tank!
Your buces are doing great by the way! That Bucephalandra Copper is really a pretty plant! And Mike(Ebi) is right, thats a marbled nana, my crown jewel of the tank. Thats why it gets its own planter orb haha.


That is a young marbled nana from me teehee :)



LOOKS AMAZING JOSH!!!

Thanks again Mike, from the rocks, to the plants, this tank would not have been possible without your help bro!


One question; Is that you playing the piano on your video?
By the way, the Downoi I wanted to give you has all melted!!!! Must have been grown with CO2 or some way that it didn't like my tank.(that's one reason I wanted you to have some cuz I know you would have kept it alive.) Well, $15 down the drain. Went ahead and ordered a CO2 setup from Bettatail and I'll build the regulator I have later. Hope finals went well.
No that is not me unfortunately, although, I should think about that for my next video, I have a few recordings that I could use....
Awe man, stinks about the Downoi! But trust me man, you won't go wrong with a solid co2 setup like that. It is very very beneficial to all your plant growth. I've never heard anyone get sad over having better plant growth haha...





Tank is continuing to grow well. I've been very busy with finals over the past few weeks. Exams are over though, and bam scored 2 B's and 3 A's. All of my not fish forumming paid off. :hihi:

In other news, I got some Cryptocoryne Petchii Pink for this tank. It is a really cool plant comes from one of those gel cup distributors in Europe. I got some off a guy on the forum.

All the bucephalandras have been steady growing except for one, which melted back a good bit. Things are starting to stabalize and mature, as a nice small layer of green is forming on the new rocks added to the tank. Foreground of Marselia Crenata is coming in quite nicely. So now I just keep everything up and farm out these buces, so that when it's time to move to the 60 gallon, I have plenty to choose from.
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Thanks Duck! I agree man. It is so very peaceful after work or school to go just sit in front of my tank and watch the school move all over the tank!
Your buces are doing great by the way! That Bucephalandra Copper is really a pretty plant! And Mike(Ebi) is right, thats a marbled nana, my crown jewel of the tank. Thats why it gets its own planter orb haha.
Glad to hear they are doing well! Its funny because i like to call my aquariums my "sanity" lol I can always relax and think watching my tanks :thumbsup: Nice job on the finals, always feels good when sacrifices pay off!

The copper is really cool, very unique buce. You know, I saw that pic of the super blue and i'm shocked at how green yours is. Mine, same plant that i had split is much darker. Have you seen much new growth from it? I know its one of my slowest growers.

Sweet marbled too, i had a feeling Mike had a hand in that :D i have a jewel or two of his as well. Cool plants! As always, a pleasure reading through your updates.
 

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Hey! You're still there! Thought you had fallen off the face of the earth or had gone offshore. (Same thing!). Tank looks Great!
Hey man. nah school got busy, and then a really crazy week of being really sick. All better now. but you should of seen the BBA when I got back to my apartment.... But taking every piece of driftwood out one at a time and directly squirting excel made quick work of that. Only lost 2 shrimp out of the entire livestock in the tank through the entire ordeal. Not too shabby...

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Josha, its time for an update, don't you think.
Buces must be taking over the whole tank!
I wish I could say as much. Actually, BBA took over the whole tank and melted several of my buces. I did a major overhaul and killed all the BBA and the tank is in farm/recovery mode. I removed all of the hardscape and tied the buces to lava rocks so that I can easily algae dip them when necessary. I planted larger clumps of stems and am working on getting a better balance between my lights and the fertilizers. I raised my lights 8 inches and only dose EI 2x a week instead of 3x. And everything is still growing fine, but BBA has chilled out. Buces are slowly but surely coming back. Just have to keep up with tank maintenance. I had gotten busy with work and just lazy with the tank. I'm doing much better tank care though over the past month, so things are starting to clear up.

I'll post pics after next WC.
Hope all is well,
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Glad to hear from you! Was hoping you weren't burned out from the hobby. You're so talented with your scapes. I've been having my share of woes too (Fish loss, shrimp getting eaten, and my tank rack is still not up and running). Also been trying to get straight my CO2-ferts situation. Looking forward to the pics.
 

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Glad to hear from you! Was hoping you weren't burned out from the hobby. You're so talented with your scapes. I've been having my share of woes too (Fish loss, shrimp getting eaten, and my tank rack is still not up and running). Also been trying to get straight my CO2-ferts situation. Looking forward to the pics.
Hey Man, yeah, I'm still alive and kicking. Its been a long summer, haha, and I guess in a way I'm sort of burnt out with plants. Not really burnt out, but just coming to terms with the realization that electrical engineering bachelors degree is starting to require more and more of my time. I still love planted tanks, and still enjoy scaping, but I intend on changing things up quite a bit. In the next few weeks, this tank is going to undergo a complete transformation. And I am very excited about it, as its something new that I've never tried before.

Very sorry to hear about your setbacks man. Hope it all settles out for you.

I'm going to be turning this tank into a river manifold tank to house Hillstream loaches and Stiphodon Gobies. I've already got the powerbeads on order, and I have lots and lots of rock to do a really cool river scape with. Slap on a bunch of anubias var. Nana and I'll be rocking. I may also try to keep a few pockets of crypts. But my goal for this tank is high oxygenation, high light with 14-16 hours photoperiod, and yes... trying to grow algae on everything, and just keep the front glass clean. So probably every plant that I will have will some algae on it. And thats okay :) (slowly break myself of my OCD planted tank habits haha).

I feel like for where I am at in my life right now, this is going to simplify my tank experience and let me get more enjoyment out of my tank with less stress. One day when I can drop big bucks for the setup of my dreams and get everything I want for the tank, I may get back into co2 highlight setups.

But don't worry, I'll still be scaping, just focusing more on the hardscape than the plants. But trust me I have some beautiful rock to work with that I got from a buddy of mine on here, Ebi (Mike). And I will still use my Manzy driftwood.

So it looks like I'll be getting rid of most of my Buces and other plants, hint hint :icon_roll

I'll probably make a new journal for this phase of the tank whenever I start getting things set up.
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Alot of work has been done on this tank. Here it is before the teardown.


And here is what it looks like as of tonight. Finished building my river manifold. I'll make a seperate journal thread with details soon.



Thanks for looking,
Joshua
 
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