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Taiwan bee grading guide?

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Is there any sort of picture guide for taiwan bees? I mean the basics are easy but sometimes I wonder if a certain shrimp is a nice panda or a poor bkk, or same with the rubies. I think I heard there is one in the back of breeders n keepers but does anyone know of one online?


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yep that is the best there is thanks again for creating this wonderful chart rah-bop
Haha I've seen this chart so many times in the last three months. It would be nice with actual pictures of the shrimp though, so from the looks of it if you cross golden or Snow White bee with King Kong or wine red you get red bolt or blue bolt??
Haha I've seen this chart so many times in the last three months. It would be nice with actual pictures of the shrimp though, so from the looks of it if you cross golden or Snow White bee with King Kong or wine red you get red bolt or blue bolt??

No a red bolt is a mutation of a bb per say. There is no real formula to get one. There is discussion about a bb and a rb even being a tb but a Snow White mutation.
Ok so I'm looking at the chart wrong then. I understand it now though because the arrow is pointing towards bb and rb and there both not even in the tb box. IDE love to see a white King Kong. How do you get the blueish hue from a King Kong to create shadow pandas. And what breeds together to even get green hulks of blue jelly
They are all mutations so there is no breed this with this or cross this to that to get desired resluts. It is all a gamble and when you get desired ones you seperate them and breed for that trait.
this was made before pintos and mosura grade bkk/wr.

things change fast!
What was the original tb that all these mutations came from. And what crossed to create that tb. Tb aren't crystals. And there not tigers. Or tibees. So were the heck they came from. I'm trying to understand the origin of these guys
Mutaion from a crystal.... That is how TB all started. They came from your CRS CBS as a start.
So they are basicaly crystals that have been bred for these colors and mutations.
Not breed for colors a actual mutation that happened. That cause the TB color and genes. Happened around the same time in germany and Taiwna. You can google it and you will find the 2 that found the mutation
Ok I'll do it when I get back from some errands. Thank you
Actually, from what I've researched Taiwans came to be by tibee breeders letting their tanks run rampant;) Even Monika Poehler has shown some blue bolts that have popped out of her tibee tanks that have never had any form of a 'Taiwan' in them.
That could happen seeing a tibee would carry crs genes which intern crated the tb. But everything I have ever read and seen where they were created out of a mutation from the bee shrimp may it have been crs CBS. Orfisherhunter had a posted that states the female that found the mutation and I think he even had the German person too
Seems as though there is controversy on where they came from. How do you guys find the sites and this info at.
Seems as though there is controversy on where they came from. How do you guys find the sites and this info at.

Hahaha, LOTS of googling and lots of translating pages;) Crustahunter is a good start, then you can hit other sites from there, translate, etc.
This chart is a bit confusing as to which can breed with which to produce (...)

So Tigers CAN'T breed with Taiwan Bees directly right? What happens if a Tiger breed with Hybrids?
Has anyone got a really hi res version of this? I've got one that's 1500x981, but I'd like to find a really big one and run off a copy on the plotter at work. It's so beautiful, it'd make a great poster for my office. I can't even imagine my coworkers reactions. "What the heck am I looking at?"
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