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Stocking suggestions, do angels and Guaramis make a good combo

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How does this sound in a 75 gallon long planted tank. Some fish I already have the rest I want to get, not all at once

1 marble angel
4 Otos
1 bristlenose pleco
Either 1 Pearl Guarami or 1 Red fire Guarami
25 Harlequin Rasboras
10 rummy nose Tetras or 10 cardinal(neon) Tetras
3 swordtails (different kinds )
2 Molly's
3 platies
Any other fish I should get ?Replace ? Or not get ?
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Just be careful with it...angelfish and gouramies are both territorial and may sometimes take issue with other territorital fishes. They will often get along fine, but do make sure to have a QT tank available so that you can move anyone if something goes wrong. I would not recommend the ottos, inasmuch as a grown angelfish could easily eat them. The tetras could also become food, so maybe a slightly larger schooling fish would be better.
My angel is tiny I just got him in the past few months , but the time he is fully grown the otos will probably be passed away, and for the Tetras they will also be fully grown
I've kept angels and Pearl Gouramis together several times over the years with no problems. I don't think you would have any problems in a 75 gal tank. Angels WILL eat small fish once they get large enough to. Some of the fish listed prefer hard water and some are better in softer water. You might want to review the recommended water conditions before you proceed.
which fish prefer hard water ?
I've kept angels and Pearl Gouramis together several times over the years with no problems. I don't think you would have any problems in a 75 gal tank. Angels WILL eat small fish once they get large enough to. Some of the fish listed prefer hard water and some are better in softer water. You might want to review the recommended water conditions before you proceed.
I would say angels MIGHT eat smaller fish. I have regularly kept angels with neons and ottos with no appreciable predation.
Others have the same experience. Angels, like all cichlids, have individual personalities and temperaments, so some may and some might. Also, it seems that most people with non-predatory angels that have been raised with tetras, generally don't eat them. Tetras introduced to adults angels do not fare as well.

Add in that angels aren't pursuit predators, some cover for tetras, a decent sized tank, and a desire on the tetras' part to not be eaten, and you may not encounter any problems. Many times I've observed my tetras just getting out of the way when an angel swims too close.

For what it's worth, my current four year old male didn't even go after shrimp. He investigated, wondering what the new thing is in the tank, then swam away.
I would say angels MIGHT eat smaller fish. I have regularly kept angels with neons and ottos with no appreciable predation.
Others have the same experience. Angels, like all cichlids, have individual personalities and temperaments, so some may and some might. Also, it seems that most people with non-predatory angels that have been raised with tetras, generally don't eat them. Tetras introduced to adults angels do not fare as well.

Add in that angels aren't pursuit predators, some cover for tetras, a decent sized tank, and a desire on the tetras' part to not be eaten, and you may not encounter any problems. Many times I've observed my tetras just getting out of the way when an angel swims too close.

For what it's worth, my current four year old male didn't even go after shrimp. He investigated, wondering what the new thing is in the tank, then swam away.
I'm speaking from my experience and that of other who have posted reporting the same. I think you are taking you're chances here. I don't think it's impossible to keep angels with very small other fish but you should be prepared to lose a few. It's good to hear the experiences of others and make your decision based on all the information you can.

which fish prefer hard water ?
The swordtails, platies and mollies would prefer water on the harder side.
My gourami and angel hated each other. Big enough tank maybe but my gourami had a wide range he thought was his
never put territorial fish together, it is unnecessary stress.
I've kept angels w/ a blue gourami for a while w/o issues. Just was sure to have plenty of caves and tall plants to break up the line of sight.

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I've had angels with dwarf gouramis. There was some chasing, but the bigger issue was that the gouramis were much faster at eating the food. So their bellies would get noticeably bigger during feeding time while the angels got little. Feeding in excess to give the angels time to get the food meant a lot of food sank or was otherwise missed.
I've had angels with dwarf gouramis. There was some chasing, but the bigger issue was that the gouramis were much faster at eating the food. So their bellies would get noticeably bigger during feeding time while the angels got little. Feeding in excess to give the angels time to get the food meant a lot of food sank or was otherwise missed.
I've also kept angels w/ dwarfs, but that's alot riskier as dwarfs tend to be the more agressive.
It takes a special person to keep dwarves, they do grow on you, but breeding season is messy.
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