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I've decided it's time to start my own journal. This tank is with me for more or less 10 years. Started with discus (bad idea in middle school, really). So empty big tank and then I saw ropefish. 8 years ago little 15 cm long "worms" came to my house. At that time it wasn't a nice tank.
Year ago I decided to go planted and add some fish. Choice of fish was limited by ropefish. I needed something big enough to not get eaten, that's why I've ones of the biggest killifish and tetras. Every fish I own is from Africa.
Probably on summer holidays I'll do a major rescape, but now I'm just trying what can be done. Long story short: here are the specs.

Size:
120x48x60 cm (~345l)

Fauna:
5x ropefish
19x congo tetra (after weekend there will be 4 females and 8 males, now there's 11 females),
4x kribensis (tomorrow there'll be only a pair),
3x blue gularis (2 males, 1 female),
9x military helmet snail,
xxx maaany maaany other ugly mini snails.

Flora:
microsorium pteropus, narrow, windelov,
anubias barteri, nana, bonsai, gold, gigantea,
bolbitis heudelotti, compact,
bucephanaldra of five kinds (don't know the names),
cryptocoryne undulata,
micranthemum monte carlo,
hygrophila corymbosa,
ammania gracilis,
rotala rotundifolia,
heteranthera zosterifolia,
red lotus,
crinum calamistratum,
fox moss, pheonix moss,
flame moss,
subwassertang,
hydrocotyle sp. Japan,
some dying eleocharis parvula
(and looking for mini pelia).

Filtration:
Eheim 2028,
Aquael Turbo 1000.

Light:
T5 4x39W - 2x sylvania grolux, 2x sylvania luxline 865.

Other:
2,5 kg CO2 with sera reactor 1000 (love it), 100W heater.
Currently adding only potassium, micro and excel.

Feeding:
frozen food of many kinds, krill, black mosquito larvae, brine shrimp, shrimp, dillies etc. Hikari cichlid pellets (staple, gold), micro wafers, micro pellets.

Maintanance:
once a week 60-90 litres water change, some trimming, cleaning glass etc.
And of course photos:































I'll try to update weekly, to show how the plants and my little congo tetras are growing :D

Edit: Water params of course!
pH=6.4
KH=2
GH=7
Mg=12
Ca=20
PO4=5 (probably bad tests and too much frozen food without rinsing)
NO2=0
NO3=15
Fe=0.3
K=15
Temp=25 C
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Yeah, they tend to lie on hydrocotyle in the upper right corner and "sunbath" with heads outside the water.
About gularis - they're aggressive only when the female is ready to lay eggs, but to achieve that you need to feed many bloodworms. Did that once, have 9 little gush growing out now. Normally they aren't fighting.
Camera - my dad took the photos, I'll ask about the specs later today and maybe he'll record a video too ;-)
 

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About camera - it's sony nex 7 with standard lens (whatever this standard is ;)) I'll add video of my little fish eating - it's from my phone, so potato quality, but it's always something. I need to cut it a little and I'll show it to you tomorrow!

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Here are (potato quality) videos of my little spaghettis eating!
Ropefish feeding
 

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Today was a scary day. Came home to see fish lying on surface of the water - CO2 out of range. Did a water change, added some circulation - everybody fine and alive.
Better news - today some new plants arrived (so many bolbitis! Love it, wanted more), I'll be planting them tomorrow and probably will do some photos!
 

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So many photos I'll try to add them tomorrow. From another thread you may know I have little baby ropes, parents thought it's too little and they're working on it. Here is a short movie of mating. I need to rearrange plants a little, so many new plants, don't even know what to do with this many! It's messy now.

About fry - for now it's hard to see, if they're eating, it's even hard to see their mouths. When I gave them BBS they started to move quickly so maaaaaybe they were eating or maybe just scared, we'll see. On the other hand little blue gularis are bigger and bigger and their mouths are so enormously big, kinda like cute big smiles. They're eating like crazy, frozen food, even micro pellets. When given some live food it's madness.
For now - 8 blue gularis fry, 3 ropefish fry, hoping for the best.
 

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Fun fact: now there're young kribensis too. Unfortunately I don't have so many free tanks so can't move them with parents (and it would be bad to move only fry). When blue gularis will become big enough to go to main tank (and to give away some of them) then I'll move adult kribensis to another tank and let them breed.
 

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For now there're 3 little ropefish, every has it's own little "home" (plastic container as a small tank). There might be more in the main tank, there're so many plants now it's hard to find something so small. I'm using Aquarium Logger for android to note params once a week, more or less steady:
pH 6.2-6.4
KH 3
GH 7
Temp 25 C
PO4 1.0
Fe 0.15 (need to add a little)
NO3 2.5 (need to add some too)
K 18
Mg 18
Ca 30

I believe that most important thing to be able to breed ropefish is their age. Mine are with me for 8 years and when I got them they were around 15-20 cm long. So probably more than 10 years old. Every other documented mating was with fish about 15 years old. They're maturing pretty slowly. Bad news is nobody could get them to adult. Best result was 5 months old, then dead. I'll be trying everything to keep fry alive, but it may be hard. Maybe in the main tank some will surprise me? :D
 

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Decided to do a small fry session!
Kribensis with fry - movie.

Kribensis protecting fry photos:








Baby rope (not much to look at for now):



One of blue gularis fry (just look into his cute little eyes... and murderous smile):




 

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Small journal entry:
What lives (fry):
2 out of 3 ropefish. One observation - looks like they need "dirt", sand, some moss, maybe they're eating some microorganisms from dirt? One little fry was in a "sterile" tank, same water, but without sand, plants etc. This one is dead now. Didn't add salt for now, I'm scared of experimenting on my only 2 little ropefish. They're not eating BBS for now, but started moving around more.
8/8 blue gularis - started heating up the tank (now it's 22 C) and they're growing like crazy now.
5/5 kribensis - it's really odd! First day I saw kribensis pair with 5 youngsters... And with all those scary fish around they're all alive! Parents are really fighting everything getting nearer than 15 cm fro the fry.
Plants: new bolbitis browning a little, probably waited too long in a bucket, will have to cut some leaves.
 

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Today I'm doing some cleaning - CO2 bottle ended and tank was without CO2 for 3 days (weekend), some algae occurred :-/
Two young ropefish are alive and moving much, but not eating BBS... Young gularis growing like mad and so are kribensis. It's really odd, that with so many predators parents are doing such a great job!
Tomorrow I should be able to make some photos.
 

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I used green water for small blue gularis (worked like charm, never bothered with BBS), added some to ropefish fry tanks, will see what happens next. Found another 4 in the main tank, only 1 was cooperative enough to get it in smaller tank, the rest - maybe they'll live somehow on their own. It looks like ropefish are not wasting their time!
 

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Right now I'm a little busy and won't be able to do photos (sorry guys!). Here is small update on everything:
- young ropefish are in greater number now, 3 are in different tank, don't know how many in main tank, but saw at least other 3. Maybe in dense cryptocoryne, where they tend to be, there is a chance to live.
- blue gularis are growing great, started to understand that seeing me means food! All alive.
- odd, but great news - all 5 kribensis alive and thriving! There is always something to nibble on. Parents are having hard time, fry is starting to be disobedient. Good news - ropefish won't even look at them, sometimes even bump into some fry and nothing happens (maybe scared of angry parents? :D).
- some algae problems, got a CO2 leak and ones again had to replace the bottle, everything should be OK in a week or two.
 

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Sadly - all little ropefish never tried eating and died as soon as yolk sack disappeared. Today adults spawned once again, so maybe this time... Well, I'm working on it and ropefish are working on it too ;) Blue gularis are growing more and more quickly and so are kribensis, but only four of them, one probably got eaten by gularis.
I'll try to get some photos as soon as possible!
 

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Sorry for no updates. I'm leaving for a month on vacation and had so many things to do before it! Right now some small ropefish appear and disappear in my tank, after vacation I'll try once again to breed them and I'll be back with more regular updates. 4 young kribensis are living and growing, even though their mom is not caring for them any more. She is ready to lay more eggs, so she became a little aggressive even towards her own babies. 7 blue gularis are alive - one jumped out, now there is a lid, so the rest is safe. They're growing nicely - 4 males, 3 females (slightly disappointed, they would be happier with something around 2 males plus 5 females). Bad news is I lost adult female and male gularis - . I knew 2 males and 1 female wasn't the best proportion, but it was caused by 2 females jumping out of quarantine tank half year ago. Fact to remember: gularis jump even when happy (ropefish don't jump out when happy ;)).

Do you think that if I do big water change before, restrict light (2x39W will be on for 7 hours, other 2x39W will be permanently off) and CO2 (should I leave low bps or cut it off?), no ferts for this month, food 2-3 times a week (bought pill container and this way parents will know how to feed), no water changes, no cleaning for a month. Will it work? Anybody with suggestions? Something I should do before leaving? Something I definitely shouldn't do?
 

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I have a lid, they never tried to run away, but sometimes they jump and bump onto lid.
About predatory - normally yes, they are. In my tank they aren't hunting, but they eat much live and frozen food. When I went on vacation for a month and they were eating once every two days, small portions... Somehow two congo tetra females disappeared... So probably it's rope's fault.
 

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Hi guys!
I wasn't posting here for some time, well things went mad for some time. 4 weekend on vacation, later 2 weeks without CO2, 2 other weeks without half of the light... So many disasters.

Ropefish are ok, that's most important for me. Spawning regularly too. In a month or so I should have more time and I will look more into breeding them.

There're only 9 congo tetras - when I was on vacation some disappeared... Feeding was extremely low, so maybe one of the ropes ate them. Same goes for young blue gularis. Now there're two males and one female, waiting for my lfs to get some females. Odd thing is all kribensis are doing great. All four youngsters are growing nicely.

I'm saving some money to get bigger tank for everybody - 200x50x50 cm would be nice. In the meantime I bought 30x30x30 cm cube - now it's in dsm phase. There will be some CPD's and probably blue velvet or yellow shrimp (for now I can't decide).

Later I'll try to do some photos, maybe some videos of both tanks :)
 
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