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My tank (5.5 gallon) cycled pretty fast, as I planted the entire tank within the first week with large plants from various established tanks. During the second week of the cycle, I kept the window behind the tank open. That combined with dosing Flourish Comprehensive heavily caused a minor algae bloom in both of my tanks. Last night I cleaned the glass on the 5.5 gallon tank to get the algae off (just diatoms) and I vacuumed out dead plant matter.

I ordered a trio of albino red lace snakeskin guppies and they'll be here around Wednesday. I want to make sure the tank is in prime condition when I add them.

- Is there a certain temperature I should start them at?
- When should I feed them first?
- How long / how should I acclimate them to prevent stress during acclimation but thoroughly adjust their bodies to my tank water?
- Should I add Prime the day before they come to counteract any lingering ammonia? (My test kit isn't super precise, but the level looks to be very low)
- Is there anything else I should do / precautions I should take other than keeping the lights off for a day or two when I add them?
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These are questions you should ask your supplier/breeder. I would try to make the conditions as close to what his/her parameters, feeding, schedules, etc. are.

-Stef*
Keep the lights off for 24 hours. Don't feed for 24 hours. Don't add prime. Do a water change if needed refer to your test kit for water change schedule. 30 percent per week if not over feeding or overstocked or under filtered. 78 degrees. I don't spend a lot of time acclimating shipped fish. You can add tank water to the bag. Usually I just get them out of the bag and into the tank ASAP. With no acclimating. I heard the ammonia rises quickly once you open the bag.
Keep the lights off for 24 hours. Don't feed for 24 hours. Don't add prime. Do a water change if needed refer to your test kit for water change schedule. 30 percent per week if not over feeding or overstocked or under filtered. 78 degrees. I don't spend a lot of time acclimating shipped fish. You can add tank water to the bag. Usually I just get them out of the bag and into the tank ASAP. With no acclimating. I heard the ammonia rises quickly once you open the bag.
Thanks, I'll do exactly that. I'll get the heater set today.
Okay, the heater is set to 80F and I did a water change on Sunday and Today (Tuesday)... They should be here tomorrow.
Agree with the other - I don't spend hardly any time acclimating shipped fish (with the exception of some gold rams since they're especially sensitive and I have hard/high ph water). I too have been told that the water becomes more toxic after the bag is open, and I've had no post-shipping losses since I started just putting them in the tank vs. acclimating. That includes a group of 6 guppies sent priority mail on a Saturday that didn't arrive until the following Saturday.
if they come in a breather bag you can't float the bag or drip acclimate in the bag, you'd have to use a container
Agree with the other - I don't spend hardly any time acclimating shipped fish (with the exception of some gold rams since they're especially sensitive and I have hard/high ph water). I too have been told that the water becomes more toxic after the bag is open, and I've had no post-shipping losses since I started just putting them in the tank vs. acclimating. That includes a group of 6 guppies sent priority mail on a Saturday that didn't arrive until the following Saturday.
Doesn't look like they're showing up today, don't know why because they were just a few miles away this morning according to the tracking. Hopefully they'll be fine. I'll try to keep acclimation to a minimum.

if they come in a breather bag you can't float the bag or drip acclimate in the bag, you'd have to use a container
They're in a breather bag... I'll float them for a few minutes to warm them up, then just dump them into the tank. It's not like they could spread disease to anything else if they're the only fish and they're coming from a serious breeder... IK it's controversial but still.
The breather bag comment was made because oxygen does not transfer through the bag well if it is submerged...
you can't float breather bags, if you do you'll cut off the oxygen to the bag and kill the fish.
Oh oops, misread the "can't" as "can"... Then I'll just dump them straight into the tank haha.
what kind of guppy are you getting? Can you drip acclimate them?
Just curious why are you doing wc if there's nothing in the tank? Are you afraid it's not cycled? Are you testing your water?
I think that's what my guppies are huh thought they were orange not red.
Just curious why are you doing wc if there's nothing in the tank? Are you afraid it's not cycled? Are you testing your water?

she said the ammonia is almost 0, so no not fully cycled yet.

I've been finding that breeder guppies are more suseptable (sp) to changes in condition than basic guppies, so getting a hold of the breeder and trying to match their water parameters etc is a great idea. If the tank is not fully cycled it could really be bad for the guppies.
what kind of guppy are you getting? Can you drip acclimate them?
Albino red lace delta (which is also snakeskin but I guess that doesn't fit into the name)... I could drip acclimate them, but I thought people were saying it would be better to just dump them in the tank after shipping?

If USPS doesn't try to stiff me again, they should be here tomorrow... :icon_neut

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Just curious why are you doing wc if there's nothing in the tank? Are you afraid it's not cycled? Are you testing your water?
Decaying plant matter... Added some Pogostemon helferi which had a tiny bit of melting, but they all pulled through and grew like weeds when I opened the blinds next to the tank. Old leaves and stuff fell off the plants and I didn't just want that sitting in there rotting and producing ammonia or whatever.
For the second time in a row, USPS has flagged my package and rerouted it to an agricultural inspection center. Why? Because they said one of their dogs sniffed something in the package.

So please try to explain to me again why drugs are sent and received all the time through USPS, yet when I order a fish, a magical fish-sniffing dog somehow sniffs them through a bag full of water.

The people from the silly little "Look at me I'm protecting the environment wow" office called and said they thought there were invasive species in the package (apparently dogs can sniff and accurately identify invasive species of fish because that's logical) and asked for permission to open it. They said they'd call if it had to be destroyed.

The last time this happened to me (a couple weeks ago) they held the package quite a long time before sending it on. It's not even a post office, just some little plant inspection center where they like to take people's fish and kill them I guess.

That last time, what I ordered was shipped on a Monday and got within a few miles of me on Tuesday, but they detained it for some reason and kept it for a while. I got it the next Wednesday I think.

So if guppies can survive over a week in small breather bags in 50 degree temperatures, things should work out. It just pains me that I'll have to waste even more water in this drought to flush them when they come.

Thanks Obama.
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That's awful. Is there so way to rush them through the process on welfare grounds?
Would cause an uproar in my little side of the world but I appreciate the USA doesn't have as tough animal welfare laws to include fish!
That's awful. Is there so way to rush them through the process on welfare grounds?
Would cause an uproar in my little side of the world but I appreciate the USA doesn't have as tough animal welfare laws to include fish!
No, they call from a generic number. When I call back, it is just a city number. They use the same number for social services and stuff... There's nothing anyone can do about it other than let them kill the fish and demand compensation when they arrive dead.

They're covered with $50 of insurance... They were $30 + $16 shipping... So at least I'd get a little less than 2/3 of my money back...?
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