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I am going to be doing a sump for my 55 gallon planted Discus tank. So i am looking for IDEAS and setups so I can do mine. As well as good ones that are off the shelf variety with some maybe added DIY features I can do to make it batter. As well as good overflows.
 

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Here is my sump design---which I love the simplicity of.

http://www.swisstropicals.com/Web pictures 600 dpi/Poret wet-sump filter.pdf

but I only have three sheets of poret foam. 1 4" coarse, 1 2" med, 1 2" fine. This is for my 75 gal tank. the sump is a 30 gallon tank. return pump is a mag 5.

according to swiss tropical the foam only needs to be cleaned once a year or twice a year.

-can get much simpler, easier or cheaper!
 

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The only thing I would remind you about is to check how much water will come into your sump if the power goes out, and adjust your running water level accordingly.
I almost made that mistake!

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The only thing I would remind you about is to check how much water will come into your sump if the power goes out, and adjust your running water level accordingly.
I almost made that mistake!

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excellent point. that is in fact why I have a 30 gallon, the foam is sized for a 20L and if I have the sump filled to almost the top of the foam that gives me about 10 extra gallons to play with. I turn the pump off to test and I only get about five more gallons drain to the sump, so no risk of flooding.
 

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At work 7 days a week so grabbing pics of the sumps isn't exactly easy for me right now but I did a thread on the trickle tower sump I tore apart and have since setup 2 more replacing canisters using direct flow end to end going through sponge panels. Any new sumps here will use direct flow to eliminate splash and CO2 losses.

Threads on all my crazy water weed stuff here on TPT.
 

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sump design

my sump is a fairly simple diy project. i took a 15 gal tall and siliconed in two pieces of glass and used a light diffuser panel from home depot. the main filter chamber has a piece of glass that runs top to bottom with a inch and a half gap at the bottom. i then siliconed in a few short pieces of pvc to raise the diffuser panels off the bottom. i filled said chamber with about five gallons worth of bio balls, and topped it off with a few sheets of filter floss to screen out big chunks. i then added a baffle in between the filter chamber and the return pump area. i sized it to fit a foam filter from the large aqua clear hang on filters, along with other types of media(phosphate sponge, etc...). my sump handles a heavily plant, somewhat overstocked tank no problem. all i have to do is clean and replace the filter floss every few months. other then that it is practically a no maintenance filter system. total price with return pump and hang on over flow(glass tank) was a little over $100 total, that includes having glass custom cut. i hope this helps you on your project.
 

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basic utilitarian (ugly) sumps

Ok we have 2 people, anyone else care to share

I have 5 display tanks of diffrent sizes with sumps of diffrent sizes.

These 2 pictures are from an album in my profile. (they are basic diy bucket wet drys sitting above the water line of a glass tank) You are probably interested in more elaborate sumps.

I recently built one using 1/4" cell cast acrylic to fit snugly under my 40B and add around 29 gallons of extra water volume. I will try to get pictures later on this 1.

Kind of embarrasing I was changing the sump heaters when I took these pictures hence the crazy wires on floor and hanging off wall mount. lol
 

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Here is the guts of the sump which is a really beat up 40 gallon acrylic breeder. Drains on the left then you can see the egg crate I used to tie the heaters together then the big 10 pore per inch blue Poret sponge with odds and ends of biological media then black 20ppi Poret. The two pumps are cushioned with more sponge. The blue square is the main sump pump and the other one feeds the 20" Cerges reactor on the right hand side. Both pumps have ball valves in case I need to choke them back. The 40 gallon breeder sits on a piece of 1/2" foam insulation from Home Depot and is covered with corrugated plastic that still needs trimming.


Here is the top of the sump showing much of the plumbing. The main drain with ball valve to tune in the Herbie style overflow is on top, emergency drain is inside the tank so I didn't have to clamp it all down as it isn't in use in ordinary circumstances. The black line is CO2, the power cords come out behind the main drain and around to the other side of the stand to stay well away from the water. You can see the tubing going to the Cerge's reactor which sits in the sump because there is plenty of room there and no room elsewhere!


Sump is running in the photos and is as full as it can be. With pumps off and standpipe in the overflow pulled to fish out surfers the sump is completely full. Luckily the tank and sump are well enough covered that there is very little evaporation and I likely wouldn't have to top off for weeks and weeks.
 

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Here you go. It's currently a standard glass 75 about 6 feet high in my basement. I have socks on the left that are separated by egg crate and sponges. The co2 reactors are in the middle with Matrix and a big sack of bioballs. A Mag 18 pushes the water back upstairs.

 

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no offense intended but i always thought sumps were beautiful, highly planned, highly scientific works of art and feats of plumbing....eye opening thread!

whats the general rule of thumb for sizing a sump to a tank?
 

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no offense intended but i always thought sumps were beautiful, highly planned, highly scientific works of art and feats of plumbing....eye opening thread!

whats the general rule of thumb for sizing a sump to a tank?
If you want to see elaborate sumps you should see reef sumps since they usually have much more equipment inside (protien skimmers & etc) and they have more partitions too (baffles).

But beautiful...

The beauty in most sumps out there is the function and the form is just a means of making the application of all things inside the sump practical.

Highly Planned...

Yeah Sumps take some planning. ( space in cabinet under display, refugium or not, type of filtration in sump, heaters space, pluming & etc.) but realy Its not difficult at all.

We all have are reasons on why we use what we use, but I much rather have a sump under a display than a canister.

I look at my display tanks my sumps are on the bottom and some behind cabinet doors

I also like using sumps for shrimp and fry refugiums.

For size it realy all depends on the amount of drainage before overflow siphon breaks and also on what you intend on placing/using inside the sump. I try to match @ least 30% actual water volume of the display tank. For example: 10G sump under 29G or 20H under a 55G

I will try and post more pics of my humble fishroom sumps including and acrylic diy sump later on.
 

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on with the Ugly

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These are some of the sumps in my lil' fishroom

The last pic is a DIY sump I built out of cellcast acrylic sheets,(i had the acrylic company cut to size) I had a remaining bit and used it for side bracing even though the eurobracing and acrylic partitions/chambers were more than enuff support. I guess overdid it because it was my first build, well @ least I dont have to worry about it.

Oh and I took these pictures late last night and this morning, hence the displays are not lit.
 

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If you want to see elaborate sumps you should see reef sumps since they usually have much more equipment inside (protien skimmers & etc) and they have more partitions too (baffles).

But beautiful...

The beauty in most sumps out there is the function and the form is just a means of making the application of all things inside the sump practical.

Highly Planned...

Yeah Sumps take some planning. ( space in cabinet under display, refugium or not, type of filtration in sump, heaters space, pluming & etc.) but realy Its not difficult at all.

We all have are reasons on why we use what we use, but I much rather have a sump under a display than a canister.

I look at my display tanks my sumps are on the bottom and some behind cabinet doors

I also like using sumps for shrimp and fry refugiums.

For size it realy all depends on the amount of drainage before overflow siphon breaks and also on what you intend on placing/using inside the sump. I try to match @ least 30% actual water volume of the display tank. For example: 10G sump under 29G or 20H under a 55G

I will try and post more pics of my humble fishroom sumps including and acrylic diy sump later on.
+1, here's my sump from my reefing days, its in the process of being converted to a Iwagumi planted tank so the sumps complexity will drop tremendously



 
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