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I was taking photos of a new slow fish and my stupid god awful self cloning crayfish. The crayfish grabbed my brand new fish and tried to eat it. My daughter screams I grab a net with my camera still in hand. So in the heat of the moment my old Olympus E410 touched water. it is now dead. It turns on but does not work right. Its clearly damaged. It's has been a few days and still it's not right. :icon_cry: it was 5 years old. That's old in the digital world.

So it's time for a new dslr. It's down to the pentax k-30 or the Nikon d5100. I have tested out both. They both feel right that's what makes it so hard. The pentax did seem to be set up more to my likening. On paper the k30 is a better camera. I know the new d5200 are about to come out so I can get a good deal on the d5100. That's the only thing really making this hard.

Is the k30 worth the money? Or would I be just as happy with the d5100.

It's $700 vs $550 this includes glass on both. Biggest draw back with the k30 is the lense when in auto setting is loud. Embarrassing loud. The d5100 has been out a while and all the bugs are worked out. I like that.

Seeing that water was the death of my old camera the weather proofing on the k30 might save me a lot of money.

Anyone have any ideas? I know a few of you are big on nikons.


Ps. I did manage to save the fish from the crayfish. The crayfish are to be destroyed. They eat all plants and hunt and kill fish. They are awful. They are taking over the world as an invasive species.
 

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Just before the Pentax K-10D came out I was looking to buy Canon's latest and greatest. The body was like 8 grand. So the total system I wanted was about 25-30 grand. Almost stroked the check for it. Then I saw the Pentax. Now I've been a Pentax shooter for over 30 years so I have a lot of equipment for it. The deciding factor for me was that all of my lenses worked (to the extent of the lens) on the Pentax bodies. Still holds true. Sure there are a couple that don't without modification (cutting extra metal on the mount of a Vivitar) but the thing is they ALL get image stabilization. So you ask: "Is Pentax a pro camera?" Well I know of quite a few that shoot pro with it. Ben Kanarek shoots for Vogue with a Pentax to drop just one name. Many of the things that we consider "standard" on SLR's today were pioneered by Pentax. And they have some excellent glass both new and used. Its right up there with the big 2 and in some aspects exceeds them for less cost. Pentax is now owned by Ricoh so they do have money behind them now.
Although I am a Pentax shooter I will say you will not regret either choice. Cameras today are about the same. It's a matter of which you're comfortable holding and using. I prefer the layout of Pentax menus over Nikon's. The stuff I use all the time is right there.

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Canon is like swill.
So are their copiers. Like I told one of their sales guys why I wouldn't put a Canon copier in "Because they suck"
 

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I'm not. Ricoh's Pro 651 makes Canons look like dog poop.
 

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I would go with a Canon or Nikon since you will find it easier to find lenses, etc. especially on the secondary market. I don't know much about the Nikon you mentioned, but the Canon T3i is about the same price and has a built-in wireless flash transmitter. Comes in really handy.
 

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My husband is saying I should wait for a camera with wifi. The D3200 has a wifi adapter the D5200 is said to have the same. I don't feel I need wifi I want a camera to take great photos.

I think Pentax is going to push nikon and canon to up their game in these next few years. My first SLR was a 1978 Ricoh it took great shots till the shutter broke in 2006. I learned a lot from that camera, it served me well. I have a soft spot in my heart for Ricoh. Seeing that they own Pentax now it could be good.

Also the Pentax K mount has been used for many years so I am sure I can find some nice used lens for the Pentax. The Pentax has In body stabilization So I don't need a lens that has stabilization in it. That is a ++ in my book. seeing that the lens is just lens with no stabilizing they will be cheaper then Nikon that has in lens stabilization.

Canon just does not do it for me. They don't feel right. I know they can take some great photos the set up is just not for me. So they are out.

Pentax is not a lesser brand. Back in the 70s they were the Pepsi. Then well they slacked off the last people that owned them ran them into the ground sadly. There is still hope that they can turn it around and be back on top. Only time will tell.


Here is the review that makes it so hard to decide.
http://bestof2012.allmyfaves.com/vote/site/name/sortable.com
Check the specs and see what you would want.
 

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I do not know how it would be easier to find lenses for Canon or Nikon particularly on the secondary market as all Pentax K mount lenses will work. That being said I started with a k1000 and now own at least 15 Pentax cameras. I guess I would vote for the Pentax. By the way, I still use the k1000.
 

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Before you chuck that camera in the trash, try warming it up a bit.

First take the battery from camera, then warm your oven up to around 100 degrees F. If the thermostat will go that low, you're all set. Just put that guy in the oven and let it sit for a few hours. If the thermostat wont go that low, you'll have to monitor the temp closely and turn the oven on/off by hand.

Or if you have a gas forced air furnace, just put the camera on top of the furnace, after checking with your hand that it doesnt get all that hot. Let it sit there for a few days. Or even sit the camera directly in front of a heat vent, or on a radiator, anywhere warm but not that warm.

Once all the water has evaporated, it should start working.
 

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Before you chuck that camera in the trash, try warming it up a bit.

First take the battery from camera, then warm your oven up to around 100 degrees F. If the thermostat will go that low, you're all set. Just put that guy in the oven and let it sit for a few hours. If the thermostat wont go that low, you'll have to monitor the temp closely and turn the oven on/off by hand.

Or if you have a gas forced air furnace, just put the camera on top of the furnace, after checking with your hand that it doesnt get all that hot. Let it sit there for a few days. Or even sit the camera directly in front of a heat vent, or on a radiator, anywhere warm but not that warm.

Once all the water has evaporated, it should start working.
It would be great if that worked. I will give it a try. I had it sitting in rice for 2 days. The weird thing is 24hr after I got it wet I turned it on and took 2 photos. Then left it out to dry more. Then tried it again and its stuck on one setting and the buttons do nothing.

So I think I turned it on too many times. maybe if I just left it off it would have been ok. Seems like from what I read about wet cameras you should not turn them on. oops I turned mine on and off a few times before it was dry. :icon_sad:

I will try the heater thing.
 

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My husband is saying I should wait for a camera with wifi. The D3200 has a wifi adapter the D5200 is said to have the same. I don't feel I need wifi I want a camera to take great photos.

I think Pentax is going to push nikon and canon to up their game in these next few years. My first SLR was a 1978 Ricoh it took great shots till the shutter broke in 2006. I learned a lot from that camera, it served me well. I have a soft spot in my heart for Ricoh. Seeing that they own Pentax now it could be good.

Also the Pentax K mount has been used for many years so I am sure I can find some nice used lens for the Pentax. The Pentax has In body stabilization So I don't need a lens that has stabilization in it. That is a ++ in my book. seeing that the lens is just lens with no stabilizing they will be cheaper then Nikon that has in lens stabilization.

Canon just does not do it for me. They don't feel right. I know they can take some great photos the set up is just not for me. So they are out.

Pentax is not a lesser brand. Back in the 70s they were the Pepsi. Then well they slacked off the last people that owned them ran them into the ground sadly. There is still hope that they can turn it around and be back on top. Only time will tell.


Here is the review that makes it so hard to decide.
http://bestof2012.allmyfaves.com/vote/site/name/sortable.com
Check the specs and see what you would want.
You're not going far enough. Not only can you use any K-mount lens you can also use M42 lenses aka Pentax Screw Mount.
A few years ago, before I go the K10D I was buying quality used lenses on FleaBay. And they were cheap. The K10 came around and they started going up. After the K20 they skyrocketed from where they were. Lenses I bought for $10 are going for over $100 now.
Hoya was the last before Ricoh.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/history
 

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You're not going far enough. Not only can you use any K-mount lens you can also use M42 lenses aka Pentax Screw Mount.
A few years ago, before I go the K10D I was buying quality used lenses on FleaBay. And they were cheap. The K10 came around and they started going up. After the K20 they skyrocketed from where they were. Lenses I bought for $10 are going for over $100 now.
Hoya was the last before Ricoh.

http://www.pentaximaging.com/about/history
I have to go with the pentax I am pretty sure my old lense are k mounts so yeah.

But what do you guys think about cameras with wifi. Is it worth it to wait for that? I feel like no matter what there will always be something new and cool that we will all want.
 

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So it's time for a new dslr. It's down to the pentax k-30 or the Nikon d5100. I have tested out both. They both feel right that's what makes it so hard. The pentax did seem to be set up more to my likening. On paper the k30 is a better camera. I know the new d5200 are about to come out so I can get a good deal on the d5100. That's the only thing really making this hard.
The comparison at Snapsort.com gave the K-30 a score of 100 and the D5100 only 79.

BTW, the Snapsort.com comparison is much more useful to me for making decision.


The crayfish are to be destroyed.
May be find them another home.
 

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The comparison at Snapsort.com gave the K-30 a score of 100 and the D5100 only 79.

BTW, the Snapsort.com comparison is much more useful to me for making decision.




May be find them another home.
These crayfish are awful. You can't keep them with other fish you can't keep them with plants. They self clone so you get more then you know what to do with them. Too many people have let them into our water ways and they take over. These things should be banned. They are the ultimate invasive species it only takes one and they can take over.

I got this one for free. If some one wants it she is 3" long and eats like a monster. She is never full.
 

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These crayfish are awful. You can't keep them with other fish you can't keep them with plants. They self clone so you get more then you know what to do with them. Too many people have let them into our water ways and they take over. These things should be banned. They are the ultimate invasive species it only takes one and they can take over.

I got this one for free. If some one wants it she is 3" long and eats like a monster. She is never full.
I know some people like that.
 
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