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I can't take this anymore. I do so well with my fish, it's my plants that are giving me trouble. For the planted tank extras I just bought:

Rena Xp3
Coralife Aqualight 130 watt
Fluorish
Fluorish root tabs
Versa tops

Now the strips on my Versa tops are blocking light. It's been two weeks with my new light and growth is minimal. I just got rid of green hair algae and now Black Brush algae is taking over. The only plants that work are the Lilly hybrids and Apognenton Crispus.

Specs:
tank:55 gallon
substrate: fine pea gravel laterite enhanced
lighting:Coralife Aqualight 130 watt
Plants: Amazon swords, Melon Sword, Anubius, Java Fern, Apognenton Crispus, Lilly hybrids
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My struggle w/ BBA was solved w/ pressurized CO2 and lots of pruning. I've also heard folks here talk about spot dosing Flourish Excel. How'd you get rid of the Green Hair Algae?
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Well, after vigorous cleaning of the glass and adding the new light, it went away on its own for now, or at least cooled down. It's being replaced with green dust algae now.
Throw some wisteria or any fast growers in there, something to suck up extra nutrients...
Do you inject co2?
No, i don't inject Co2. That's exactly what i need. What are some hardy, grow like crack weeds. I want out of control weeds.
Try the adjustable legs and an open top. No more plastic strip blocking light or glass cleaning :) I have pics of my set-up with the Coralife on my 55 if you'd like to see them.
Well, I'm worried about my fish jumping and the humidity and smell. There is also evaporation, especially in the winter. I'd love to see your pics though.BTW, my Amazon Sword seems to grow thin leaves at the bottom, but they don't get wide.
Argh, can't get into my imageshack account from work, but here is the thread where I posted the pics:

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/g...2247-new-55-what-should-i-buy.html#post464158

There should never be a smell, or something very bad is going on. I haven't ever had a fish jump out and I have crazy australian rainbows, but yes, there is the more rapid evaporation. One big bonus though is that the heat from the light won't affect the temp of the tank as much if it is raised on the legs.
No, i don't inject Co2. That's exactly what i need. What are some hardy, grow like crack weeds. I want out of control weeds.
Ludwigia repens. Common, easy to find. Heck, depending on where you are in the country, you might be able to visit a local pond or lake to get some. I know the stuff will just about take over my tank If I don't prune it regularly. But I've got injected CO2. It has slowed down a bit since I cut way back on ferts.
Alright got wisteria, anacharis, and giant hygro 5 days ago. I haven't really seen that much growth if any. My Amazon Sword looks much healthier but still has thin leaves. The Green Dust Algae seems to be dying off and the green hair algae is gone. BBA algae is also dieing.

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ok. I think your main issue is you are not feeding the plants what they need. you need some CO2 goin in there or at least some form of carbon (excel) as well as flourish and the root tabs are not a full complement of ferts. The plastic strip is the least of your worries.I'm sure there is plenty of light making its way in to the tank. Hell I had 55W over my 75 gal and was still getting decent growth.
But with your setup you aren't going to see huge growth unless the plants are well fed all the nutrients they need. (N,P,K & carbon)

oh yeh a fast grower that did very well for me was H. Zosterfolia.
Well I've mentioned that i dose flourish, just maybe not enough. The gravel is enriched with laterite and root tabs. I don't think fertilizers are the issue. Now I have reduce my surface agitation which I have read will keep more co2 in. DIY co2 is unreliable on this size of a tank. Fluorish excel, well I can't find it anywhere. Pressurized, I'm worried that it will still have no effect and that it will be money wasted. I first want to see the benefits of Co2. Also, I want to use a small coke bottle as the reactor, will the wrapper adhesive cause any problems?
Well I've mentioned that i dose flourish, just maybe not enough. The gravel is enriched with laterite and root tabs. I don't think fertilizers are the issue.
Flourish is good for dosing Micros (from their site: Flourish™ is a comprehensive plant supplement for the natural freshwater aquarium. It contains a rich assortment of important micro elements, trace elements and other nutrients. These include calcium, magnesium, iron and other important elements that have been shown to be beneficial to aquatic plants. For macro element (NPK) fertilization, use Flourish Nitrogen™, Flourish Phosphorus™ or Flourish Potassium™ as needed.
, but you need to add Macros (N,P,K, and especially C).

CO2 will be a benefit. Now sure how the adhesive on the outside of a soda bottle will effect the CO2 produced, unless you think it goes in the tank, it doesn't. Just airline tube goes into the tank.

Besides, you are better off with a gatorade, or juice bottle instead of a soda bottle. Stronger plastic, and wide base (less likely to tip over).

HTH
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Nitrogen-fish, Phosphorus and Potassium-tap water. People always say with low tech tanks you don't have to dose fertilizers or co2. I'm talking about a forced reactor out of a small coke bottle instead of a gravel washer, not the co2 generator.
IME, it'll depend on Fish load, and feeding schedule, and plants. My low-tech does do better much better with Excel, and tiny amounts of N,P,K dosed every couple weeks.

Sorry My bad on the internal reactor.
Well, I have a GBR pair, 1 very large angelfish, 2 small clown loaches, 3 Australian rainbow fish, 1 cory, 3 platies, 1 blue gourami, 1 rosy barb, 6 neon tetras and 2 otos. I dose flourish about once a week.
Well I've mentioned that i dose flourish, just maybe not enough. The gravel is enriched with laterite and root tabs. I don't think fertilizers are the issue. Now I have reduce my surface agitation which I have read will keep more co2 in. DIY co2 is unreliable on this size of a tank. Fluorish excel, well I can't find it anywhere. Pressurized, I'm worried that it will still have no effect and that it will be money wasted. I first want to see the benefits of Co2. Also, I want to use a small coke bottle as the reactor, will the wrapper adhesive cause any problems?
dude. pressurized CO2 will NOT be innefective. it will be the best investment for your planted tank you will make aside from lighting. DIY is unreliable, pressurized is solid. But if you have a couple 2ltrs going it might be enough.
I don't think the adhesive will be a big issue tho.

as for flourish and the tabs. It is a mix of trace and micro nutrients. it is not an all encompassing fert. Thats why seachem makes the whole line. If you are having trouble tracking it down locally hit up Drfostersmith.com if you get it in 2ltrs you will save the most and it will last you a while. And altho there may be some small amounts of potassium and phosphate in your tap water it might not be enough.
Wait, I just read that Tom Barr said water changes shouldn't be done on a low tech tank. Well, I do weekly water changes. Is that a problem?
Anyone think I should do less water changes?
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