That might depend on what your Gh/Kh values are in your tap water.
OEBT / Royal Blue WP's
Heyas,
I have been keeping Cherries, Crystals, TB's but not tigers.
I keep my Cherries in the same tank as my Crystals & TB's. (Same WP's)
The new tank has a non-active sand that I just got today, some river sand (white to show off the colours).
So, I need pH of 7.0/7.2 for tigers ?
If my tap water is approximately 7.0, should I just use Prime and put it in tank ?
Or should I be using RO water with shrimp salts GH+ ?
Or a mix of RO + salts and tap water ?
TIA,
Dead Can Dance.
I have been keeping Cherries, Crystals, TB's but not tigers.
I keep my Cherries in the same tank as my Crystals & TB's. (Same WP's)
The new tank has a non-active sand that I just got today, some river sand (white to show off the colours).
So, I need pH of 7.0/7.2 for tigers ?
If my tap water is approximately 7.0, should I just use Prime and put it in tank ?
Or should I be using RO water with shrimp salts GH+ ?
Or a mix of RO + salts and tap water ?
TIA,
Dead Can Dance.
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most tigers like parameters between crs and neo conditions
ph 7.2-7.4
gh 6-10
kh 4-7
tds 100-180
temp no warmer than 72 and that can be pushing it.
the thing with fancy tigers like oebt, royal, black and red is they have been pretty inbreed, excluding the reds those i believe are a natural color. they are really sensitive to bacteria and once it sets it can whipe a whole colorny in a week. i had my tds up in the 200 range and did pretty good with them. but those are general. and i found my tigers be it oebt or red wanted a bit more protein than neo's and caridina i had. if i didnt feed a bit more they would make snacks of young snails and limpets.
ph 7.2-7.4
gh 6-10
kh 4-7
tds 100-180
temp no warmer than 72 and that can be pushing it.
the thing with fancy tigers like oebt, royal, black and red is they have been pretty inbreed, excluding the reds those i believe are a natural color. they are really sensitive to bacteria and once it sets it can whipe a whole colorny in a week. i had my tds up in the 200 range and did pretty good with them. but those are general. and i found my tigers be it oebt or red wanted a bit more protein than neo's and caridina i had. if i didnt feed a bit more they would make snacks of young snails and limpets.
I have attempted OEBT and BTOE three times, and the third time is a charm. To me, I rate these more difficult than TBs for which I had no issue breeding the first time.
In my opinion, WP is not the most important factor, AFAIW, people have succeeded in PH 6.0-7.5, GH 4-8, TDS from 100-300. If it works for you the first time then you're one of the lucky bunch, otherwise, I would suggest to try small batches until you figure out what works for you. This is the single species that has cost me the most so far.
In my opinion, WP is not the most important factor, AFAIW, people have succeeded in PH 6.0-7.5, GH 4-8, TDS from 100-300. If it works for you the first time then you're one of the lucky bunch, otherwise, I would suggest to try small batches until you figure out what works for you. This is the single species that has cost me the most so far.
I just picked up some royal blues from lexinverts, these are the W.P. that he recommends.
I've been asked by a few folks for my tank parameters. Here they are.
Cardinals: Inert sand substrate, RO re-mineralized with Salty Shrimp 8.5 to 135-175 ppm TDS, GH 6-8. pH 8.5, temp 82 F.
Tylomelania (snails): Crushed coral substrate, RO re-mineralized with Kent RO Right to 250 ppm, and a GH of 7-9, KH of 2-5, pH 8.5, temp 82F.
Taiwan Bees, CRS and CBS: ADA New Amazonia, RO re-mineralized with Salty Shrimp GH+ to 185-200 ppm, and a GH of 6, KH 0, pH of 6-6.5, temp of 74F.
Tiger shrimp and Blue Diamond Neos: Either Azoo Plant grower substrate or ADA New Amazonia, RO re-mineralized with 50% Kent RO Right, and 50% Salty Shrimp GH+ to a TDS of 200-250 ppm and a GH of 6 and a KH of 2, pH of 6.8-7.2, temp of 74F.
Paracaridina: Inert substrate, RO wastewater + 1/4 tsp Kent RO Right for a TDS of 130-150 ppm.
All tanks have lots of plants, and have sponges and a Hang on back Hagen Aquaclear for filtration. 10-20% water changes about every 10 days.
I dose the planted display tanks with Excel, every other day, at the recommended dose.
All tanks have at least two Indian Almond leaves in them; at different stages of decay.
I feed a balanced diet that consists of Ken's Fish Veggie Sticks with Calcium, Hikari Shrimp and Crab cuisine, Barley sticks, Ken's Earthworm Sticks, blanched spinach/kale, and microorganism foods (Shirakura Chi-Ebi, Borneo Wild Bebi). The snails also get raw carrots.
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I've been asked by a few folks for my tank parameters. Here they are.
Cardinals: Inert sand substrate, RO re-mineralized with Salty Shrimp 8.5 to 135-175 ppm TDS, GH 6-8. pH 8.5, temp 82 F.
Tylomelania (snails): Crushed coral substrate, RO re-mineralized with Kent RO Right to 250 ppm, and a GH of 7-9, KH of 2-5, pH 8.5, temp 82F.
Taiwan Bees, CRS and CBS: ADA New Amazonia, RO re-mineralized with Salty Shrimp GH+ to 185-200 ppm, and a GH of 6, KH 0, pH of 6-6.5, temp of 74F.
Tiger shrimp and Blue Diamond Neos: Either Azoo Plant grower substrate or ADA New Amazonia, RO re-mineralized with 50% Kent RO Right, and 50% Salty Shrimp GH+ to a TDS of 200-250 ppm and a GH of 6 and a KH of 2, pH of 6.8-7.2, temp of 74F.
Paracaridina: Inert substrate, RO wastewater + 1/4 tsp Kent RO Right for a TDS of 130-150 ppm.
All tanks have lots of plants, and have sponges and a Hang on back Hagen Aquaclear for filtration. 10-20% water changes about every 10 days.
I dose the planted display tanks with Excel, every other day, at the recommended dose.
All tanks have at least two Indian Almond leaves in them; at different stages of decay.
I feed a balanced diet that consists of Ken's Fish Veggie Sticks with Calcium, Hikari Shrimp and Crab cuisine, Barley sticks, Ken's Earthworm Sticks, blanched spinach/kale, and microorganism foods (Shirakura Chi-Ebi, Borneo Wild Bebi). The snails also get raw carrots.
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"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. Well I say that there are some things we don't want to know. Important things!" Ned Flanders
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=338362
I bought some river sand for a substrate.
Is that going to be okay if my WP's are okay ?
Or should I really go for a typical shrimp soil ?
Is that going to be okay if my WP's are okay ?
Or should I really go for a typical shrimp soil ?
I have btoe and royals and red tigers
I keep all in ph 7.1-7.4. Gh 6-7 kh 1-2. Tds 225-275 temp 68 or lower
They breed like rabbits, key is keep it simple and keep your hands out of the tank. Mine are in 20l with pool filter sand with crypts anubias and drift wood with moss. If people in the states have black tigers I probably sold them to them to start.
My royal blues are in the same conditions. Started with 10 probably have 75 after 3-4 months.
Don't over feed mess with the water and don't put your hands in the tank. Heat is a key issue too. Don't let them get to warm
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I keep all in ph 7.1-7.4. Gh 6-7 kh 1-2. Tds 225-275 temp 68 or lower
They breed like rabbits, key is keep it simple and keep your hands out of the tank. Mine are in 20l with pool filter sand with crypts anubias and drift wood with moss. If people in the states have black tigers I probably sold them to them to start.
My royal blues are in the same conditions. Started with 10 probably have 75 after 3-4 months.
Don't over feed mess with the water and don't put your hands in the tank. Heat is a key issue too. Don't let them get to warm
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Just had a look at your tank thread sbarbee.
Looks very nice.
2 questions, your rack is over carpet ?
I am getting a new rack, I prefer to put it on hardwood but if neeed be, I'll do it in a carpeted room if I need the space.
Any issues on carpet ?
How much / often are you changing water for your tigers ?
Looks very nice.
2 questions, your rack is over carpet ?
I am getting a new rack, I prefer to put it on hardwood but if neeed be, I'll do it in a carpeted room if I need the space.
Any issues on carpet ?
How much / often are you changing water for your tigers ?
I have btoe and royals and red tigers
I keep all in ph 7.1-7.4. Gh 6-7 kh 1-2. Tds 225-275 temp 68 or lower
They breed like rabbits, key is keep it simple and keep your hands out of the tank. Mine are in 20l with pool filter sand with crypts anubias and drift wood with moss. If people in the states have black tigers I probably sold them to them to start.
My royal blues are in the same conditions. Started with 10 probably have 75 after 3-4 months.
Don't over feed mess with the water and don't put your hands in the tank. Heat is a key issue too. Don't let them get to warm
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Oh, I just tested my cycling tank.
pH is 8.2
Ammonia is 1.0
pH is 8.2
Ammonia is 1.0
If I am sitting at 8.2 with just white river sand while it's cycling, if I add in some akadama soil, will that bring the pH into range ?
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