[narayanan]

Hi All.. This is my first planted Aquarium. Not sure why few leaves in NYMPHAEA LOTUS 'RED' are turning transparent.. Please advice me on this???

 

[AirstoND]

How deep is your substrate?

Root tabs?

Tank temp(if you do cold water changes, this stresses them)?

Light parameters?

 

[pantherspawn]

:'(

 

[pantherspawn]

If it's a new plant, it will probably have die off the first few weeks unit l the roots establish themselves.. I have Lotus in my tanks and they go thru periods of repeated die off where there seems to be nothing left, I'm sometimes not sure if they'll ever come back, but they always do. Also, these guys feed heavily thru the roots, so make sure you have root tabs very close to them for best growth.



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[wicca27]

could just be an older leaf. as older ones die new ones sprout

 

[narayanan]

AirstoND: Lighting: 2x24W (T5)
No Root tabs, i used Substrate Fertilizers.
Will try to get the info abt dept of my substrate and tank temp tonight.

 

[narayanan]

pantherspawn, wicca27: This plant is 3 months old, and these two leaves are week old.
Do you recommend me to use root tabs added to substrate fertilizer?

 

[narayanan]

Tank Temp: 30 c
Sub depth: Around 7cm

 

[talontsiawd]

I would just let it grow. This plant always "tricks" me into thinking it's not doing well but over time, I have found it really easy, just really sensitive to changes. Just cut back the leaves that are damaged and see what happens. I would be that it will grow healthy leaves unless other plants are suffering too.

 

[pantherspawn]

I would just let it grow. This plant always "tricks" me into thinking it's not doing well but over time, I have found it really easy, just really sensitive to changes. Just cut back the leaves that are damaged and see what happens. I would be that it will grow healthy leaves unless other plants are suffering too.

Agree.. The leaves come and go as they will.

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[angelcraze]

Might just be me, but is this lotus planted too deeply?

And this bugs me all the time, nothing to do with the thread, but in the pic you have either chain sword or dwarf sag around the lotus. It looks like you've trimmed the leaves. I really want to know which it is, chain sword or dwarf sag??? Plz.

 

[Ras]

^my exact thoughts
when I plant any form of nymphaea too deeply the large leaves die and it forms these very odd compact leaves close to the ground, almost like a foreground plant. or it dies completely
its happened to me a number of times, the only one I could ever keep looking lush was attached to a bulb which i never buried because it would rot

 

[JMN16150]

If it does die, leave the plant's base where it originally was. It usually becomes a bulblet and sprouts(ime at least). Can you post another pic, it might be misidentified.

 

[OVT]

That is N. stellata.
The dying leaf is the outside leaf = the oldest. Rather common with these plants.

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[Zapins]

Replied on APC: http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/.../90585-whats-wrong-my-nymphaea-lotus-red.html

Likely potassium deficiency, in Nymphaea species the holes are not small pinholes like in other species but rather huge lesions that appear very quickly, sometimes within a few hours, enlarge and can kill entire leaves. Also happens in Barclaya.

 

[narayanan]

Thanks all for your reply :icon_bigg:icon_bigg

angelcraze: yep it is dwarf sag, i trimmed it down heavily and it take lot of time to come back, not sure on that

JMN16150: Few more pic attached
And Acctly i did not get you on this.

It usually becomes a bulblet and sprouts(ime at least)

 

[OVT]

I disagree as some "melting" leaves in Nymphaea are rather common: 1-2 melting leaves surrounded by 20+ perfectly healthy ones. The ones that melt are either the oldest leaves on the plant or the youngest.

You can also achieve the same result by:

• slightly "folding" the stem
• trimming the roots
• too long exposure to air
• temperature change up or down
• replanting

 

[JMN16150]

The scientific for that plant may be Nymphaea rubra...(indian red lily)

 

[Zapins]

I disagree as some "melting" leaves in Nymphaea are rather common: 1-2 melting leaves surrounded by 20+ perfectly healthy ones. The ones that melt are either the oldest leaves on the plant or the youngest.

You can also achieve the same result by:

• slightly "folding" the stem
• trimming the roots
• too long exposure to air
• temperature change up or down
• replanting

These are certainly possibilities in general for damaged lotus plants, but in this specific case the older leaves are damaged with no new leaf involvement at all. This pattern usually signifies a mobile nutrient deficiency.

Since his plant has been in the same spot for 2 months these are unlikely to have occurred.

• trimming the roots
• too long exposure to air
• temperature change up or down
• replanting

This is a possibility, but even severed leaves left in water will not decay like this for days even weeks at a time, furthermore why only the oldest ones?

• slightly "folding" the stem

All this points towards a nutrient problem, probably potassium.

Read through my new DeficiencyFinder entry for potassium deficiency in another Nymphaea species:
http://deficiencyfinder.com/?page_id=789

 

[talontsiawd]

I disagree as some "melting" leaves in Nymphaea are rather common: 1-2 melting leaves surrounded by 20+ perfectly healthy ones. The ones that melt are either the oldest leaves on the plant or the youngest.

You can also achieve the same result by:

• slightly "folding" the stem
• trimming the roots
• too long exposure to air
• temperature change up or down
• replanting

I don't know, I have had a few and many have done this, just to grow back perfectly. I don't want to say you are wrong, and you are my plant mentor, but I have never not had this plant suffer unless, something else is suffering. I guess that may be hard to gather from this post but I have had transparent leaves for no reason, just to have it go away. The plant is so sensitive to change, but still robust enough to always come back, given everything else is right, for me to just leave it alone.

That said, the roots on these things can get HUGE, so a trimming isn't a bad thing.