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No more lights above the tank if this will work

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Ok fish tank people, how many of you are dreaming about not having a light above your tank? I’m one of them. Last few years I’ve been searching how I can make it work until I came across Hoppy’s thread where he makes a light out of SMD LED strips. So my new tank has a 4’’ lip around the top and an 8’’ across the center and so I was thinking I could attach a few rows of colorful smd led lights. I’m thinking red, green and blue. Here is a picture of my tank. All comments/suggestions are welcome.
here is smd led I'm thinking about SUPERNIGHT (TM) 16.4FT 5M SMD 5050 Waterproof 300LEDs Cool White LED Flash Strip Light, LED Flexible Ribbon Lighting Strip, 12V 60W - Amazon.com

Hoppy thread http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=545113

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I don't see how you can get enough light doing it that way. The only reason the LED tapes work for me is that I have 8 side by side rows of them. And, when they are that close together I suspect that a metal backing is needed to help keep heat from building up and destroying or at least deteriorating the LEDs. Acrylic won't do anything to help get rid of that heat.

Also, just because the LEDs are waterproof doesn't mean they will work under water, and putting them that close to the water will likely result in them being wet a lot. The electric connections to the tapes isn't waterproof without a considerable effort to make them so. Finally, you will still have electric leads coming out of the tank, but no way to hide them.

I wouldn't even consider using this idea without also using primarily white LEDs, with just a few colored ones added. I doubt that the RGB LEDs will give enough light, since most of the LEDs will have to run at a lower power.

Finally, LEDs are painful to look at because of their extreme brightness, so I would always want a way to shield them from being seen by anyone near the tank. I'm not sure how you will do that with this scheme.
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Won't know till you try. Only mostly guessing but your avitar suggest you have the experience to adapt your plant choice to whatever light level you get from those lights.
The white ones are listed as cool white so that is normally in the 4000K range.
If the spectrum of the Red/Blue is anything the plants can use...
If that adhesive will work for how long in the constant humidity...
I guess your about to find these things out.
I don't see how you can get enough light doing it that way. The only reason the LED tapes work for me is that I have 8 side by side rows of them. And, when they are that close together I suspect that a metal backing is needed to help keep heat from building up and destroying or at least deteriorating the LEDs. Acrylic won't do anything to help get rid of that heat.

Also, just because the LEDs are waterproof doesn't mean they will work under water, and putting them that close to the water will likely result in them being wet a lot. The electric connections to the tapes isn't waterproof without a considerable effort to make them so. Finally, you will still have electric leads coming out of the tank, but no way to hide them.

I wouldn't even consider using this idea without also using primarily white LEDs, with just a few colored ones added. I doubt that the RGB LEDs will give enough light, since most of the LEDs will have to run at a lower power.

Finally, LEDs are painful to look at because of their extreme brightness, so I would always want a way to shield them from being seen by anyone near the tank. I'm not sure how you will do that with this scheme.

Hoppy :) I look at you as the led lighting guru! Now I got your attention, maybe you can help me out. How many rows of smd cool white led do I need on each side? This is the part I’m struggling with the most. I don’t understand all the PAR readings and what not, so if someone like you can figure it out for me, I can take care of the rest like the water proofing, heat sink, wiring act.
I do have about 1 5/8 gap between the water level and the bottom of that lip. My tank size is L96xW24xH26
I was thinking about the red, green and the blue I’m just going to use it on the two sides and the center braces so I have the two sides only for the cool white smd (this has only the two wires so it can do only one color)
I appreciate your help thanks a lot
Jozsef
Won't know till you try. Only mostly guessing but your avitar suggest you have the experience to adapt your plant choice to whatever light level you get from those lights.
The white ones are listed as cool white so that is normally in the 4000K range.
If the spectrum of the Red/Blue is anything the plants can use...
If that adhesive will work for how long in the constant humidity...
I guess your about to find these things out.
Yeah I’m not new to the planted tanks at, least not the last 15 years or so. Not planning to use the led strip adhesive, that stuff on the led is junk!! I’m planning to take it off somehow (I did it on my other strip light) use some water proof adhesive.
And you are right, we will find out if this thing is going to work or not. It will be awesome if it does. It took me a few years to get to this point because the tank is up in the main floor. I wanted to get it done right!
The lighting is the part I’m struggling with the most. I usually overdo it or I don’t have enough so I’m glad I got Hoppy’s attention J
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