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Got bored of my Iwagumi and wanted to do something with spiderwood. Decided to make my own forest.

Have a look at my Youtube channel :)
>> www.youtube.com/nigelaquascaping
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My tank with black background in the room.

nigel aquascaping enchanted forest black background by Nigel Aquascaping, on Flickr

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detail shot forest scape by nigel aquascaping by Nigel H, on Flickr

forest 8 by Nigel Aquascaping, on Flickr
forest detail 128l nigel aquascaping by Nigel Aquascaping, on Flickr
Specs planted tank aquarium
Tank
80x40x40 cm / 31x15x15" opticwhite 8mm
34 gallon / 128 litre

Lighting
Chihiros rgb 60

Hardscape
Lava rock
Spiderwood

Substrate
ADA Aqua Soil

Shrimp
50+ Red cherry shrimp


Fish

20 green neon tetra

Snails
10 Clithon sp.

Plants
hydrocotyle tripartita
cryptocoryne parva
fissidens fontanus
fissidens mini
solenostoma tetragonum
Bucephalandra (soon before flooding)

Co2
Pressurized CO2 with a diffusor
Co2 checker edge (20 ppm)

Heater
Hydor eth 200 temperature 25 celcius

Filter
Eheim experience 350 (2426) with stainless steel lily pipes

Background
Frosted glass spray

Day 1 Hardscape & DSM



Day 36


Day 60
forest scape 128l day 60 p3 by Nigel H, on Flickr

Day 75

Day 95
More details
day 95 forest aquascape by nigel aquascaping by Nigel H, on Flickr

Day 115

Progress
details growth by nigel by Nigel H, on Flickr

Tank 80x40x40 cm - 34g / 128L

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Yoghurt method experiment
[/B]Got some fissidens fontanus from someone. Trying out the yoghurt blender method to attach mosses on my lava rocks. Thanks for the idea @shaman.


Yoghurt method moss dsm

More info about this see
http://bolbiaquarium.blogspot.nl/2016/02/attaching-moss-to-hardscape-yoghurt.html

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Waterlogging all pieces hopefully they will not dry completely out during my dry start to attach mosses to hardscape.

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To be more safe to avoid floating spiderwood I zip tied spiderwood pieces to a piece of slate. These will be buried in the substrate. So far it seems promising as pieces sink immediately in a bucket.

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Rough sketch of the planting. Critique please :D

WM = weeping moss
CP = cryptocoryne parva
FF / RC = fissidens fontanus / riccardia chamedry folia

Some anubias petite and bucephalandra mini needle leaf random in the scape. Should I put them in crevices or glue them?

The 'path' isn't really planted because if I do all the roots will become hidden by plants.

Maybe I will put some trees more diagonal to prevent the scape from being to static,

Planning to raise the substrate more at the back as I have enough soil from my Iwagumi to create more depth. Something like 4 cm front, left back 13 cm, center 8 cm and right back 10 cm.


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Personally I'd glue it as, imo, the glue is only temporary and it gives you many more placement options. Just one opinion. Looks like it's going to be very cool.
 

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A forest tank is my dream to make. Still new to the hobby and have a lot to learn, but it's my goal. Your hardscape is exactly what I want to do one day. The spiderwood is gorgeous, and your placement creates a lot of depth. Looks like Fangorn forest from LotR!
 

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I love the idea of a spiderwood forest.
 
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Very cool! Given any thought to fauna yet?
Thanks!

20 Green neon tetras
17 Amano shrimp
20+ Red cherry shrimp

Will be transfered from my iwagumi. During the dry start to attach mosses they will be in a smaller tank for a few weeks.

Maybe some snails would look cool but I don't want the eggs of nerites all over the place and want to keep it under control (breeding of other species).
A forest tank is my dream to make. Still new to the hobby and have a lot to learn, but it's my goal. Your hardscape is exactly what I want to do one day. The spiderwood is gorgeous, and your placement creates a lot of depth. Looks like Fangorn forest from LotR!
Thank you :)

I am also pretty new to this hobby (since March 2017). First I thought a forest scape would be to complex to start with but this hobby is all a learning curve. Once has to be your first time so go for it!
 

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Ordered a chihiros rgb. Hopefully I will like the 8000k cold view.

New plant list due low par with just 1 light unit (~36 par.)
So I skipped the riccardia chamedryfolia as it requires at least 50 par.

Decided to add a little bit of
hydrocotyle tripartita. Riccardia chamedryfolia will be replaced with solenostoma tetragonum.

Plant list
hydrocotyle tripartita
Crypt parva
Weeping moss
solenostoma tetragonum
Fissidens mini and fontanus
Bucephalandra kedagang mini.



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Hardscape so far in tank. Still need to glue the roots together.


Tested some lava rocks in water that has been in dsm for four weeks and the amano shrimps are pulling everything off. So I guess I can't have amano shrimp at the start in the tank. What would be a good algae eaters that will not blow the delicate moss off? Maybe RCS? Not sure if they will keep algae under control.
 

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The hardscape looks quite a bit better in the tank, and I thought it looked great in the box. Are you glueing the moss on, if so it shouldn't come off. Maybe thread?
 

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The hardscape looks quite a bit better in the tank, and I thought it looked great in the box. Are you glueing the moss on, if so it shouldn't come off. Maybe thread?
Thanks

The moss was applied with the yoghurt method. Not sure what to do with the mosses I ordered. I like the yoghurt method maybe just skipp the amano shrimp for the first months in the scape.
 

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Oh well if your doing the yogurt method then I would just leave the shrimp out for the first couple weeks. Maybe a month if you wanted but i think it would be grown enough by then.
 

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The tank is set up! Now I have to wait like 4-6 weeks so the mosses will attach to the hardscape. Can't wait to fill it already!

Impression of the hardscape enjoy ;)
 

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Mold problems on spiderwood. Even with some air opening and daily 10 mins airing. Tips are welcome.







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I hate to suggest it, but I'm wondering if the mold problems could be due to the wood having been waterlogged before your DSM. The scape is gorgeous though and I'm excited to watch it keep coming together!
 

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I hate to suggest it, but I'm wondering if the mold problems could be due to the wood having been waterlogged before your DSM. The scape is gorgeous though and I'm excited to watch it keep coming together!

Hmm yeah could be…Hopefully it won't ruin the scape. I am excited to fill the tank so I can watch the scape. Instead of watching to condensation


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