Which chlorine remover are you useing. If you arnt I would sugest changeing to seachem prime. And maybe get some cuprasorb from seachem and put it in a bag in your filter. Shrimp are extremly sensitive to copper. But that would be my current sugestions with what information you listed
Newbie needs the experts help
I am new to this hobby and just like any novice am currently running into problems. I can not seem to keep Cherry Red Shrimps. I already killed 20 and 10 Bee Shrimps and am beginning to get upset.
My tank is 5G and planted with Cabomba, Anubia on a drift wood, Riccia,,Eleocharis, and one plant that I don't know the name. Am using GEX soil for plants and shrimps(Green Bag). Am using GEX HOB. Am also injecting adequate amount of CO2(as confirmed by my CO2 indicator). I don't use any fertilizers for my plants
Here are my water parameters:
Temperature : 28 deg celcius
pH : 6.4
kH : 3
NH3/NH4 : 0 ppm
Nitrite : 0 ppm
Nitrate : 0 ppm
Other than the shrimps I also have 4 small otos which I feed with blanched vegetable. My current batch of shrimp concist of 10 Red Cherrys and 10 Baby yellow shrimps. As of this morning am surprise to see that only one of the yellows died and and only 2 of the cherrys are still alive.
I do weekly 20% water change with anti-chlorine added to the tap water. Our tap water has a neutral pH.
Am I missing something? I desperately need the experts opinion about my case. I want to make sure that the next batch of shrimps that I am going to put in my aquarium will not be sentenced to die.
Thank you very much.
My tank is 5G and planted with Cabomba, Anubia on a drift wood, Riccia,,Eleocharis, and one plant that I don't know the name. Am using GEX soil for plants and shrimps(Green Bag). Am using GEX HOB. Am also injecting adequate amount of CO2(as confirmed by my CO2 indicator). I don't use any fertilizers for my plants
Here are my water parameters:
Temperature : 28 deg celcius
pH : 6.4
kH : 3
NH3/NH4 : 0 ppm
Nitrite : 0 ppm
Nitrate : 0 ppm
Other than the shrimps I also have 4 small otos which I feed with blanched vegetable. My current batch of shrimp concist of 10 Red Cherrys and 10 Baby yellow shrimps. As of this morning am surprise to see that only one of the yellows died and and only 2 of the cherrys are still alive.
I do weekly 20% water change with anti-chlorine added to the tap water. Our tap water has a neutral pH.
Am I missing something? I desperately need the experts opinion about my case. I want to make sure that the next batch of shrimps that I am going to put in my aquarium will not be sentenced to die.
Thank you very much.
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Also don't seprate the anibus rhyzome in the shrimp tank... When you first seperate them they release a toxin that can kill shrimp also
Your temperature seems very warm. It is no wonder that the CRS are not surviving, as they require cooler water. The RCS are probably just barely able to survive at that temperature.
I would think that excessive copper is not a problem in this case. While shrimp are sensitive to copper, it may be surprising to know that there is copper in shrimp food, etc. It is still required by shrimp.
I would think that excessive copper is not a problem in this case. While shrimp are sensitive to copper, it may be surprising to know that there is copper in shrimp food, etc. It is still required by shrimp.
I disagree with this as well. I have done this before in a 2.5 gallon aquarium, and all my shrimp were still happy as ever.Also don't seprate the anibus rhyzome in the shrimp tank... When you first seperate them they release a toxin that can kill shrimp also
This is not true.
Also don't seprate the anibus rhyzome in the shrimp tank... When you first seperate them they release a toxin that can kill shrimp also
You might want to check over at az inverts forum because that is where I got that information. Also you might check into testing for copper. And just because you were able to do it doesn't meen diffrent species of anibus will not cause deaths... Also in numerous plant raiseing facilities they are useing copper based products sprayed into the air and tank areas for pest control. So please do a little research before you come to the conclusion something some said is not true
And yes I am aware there are "trace" ammounts of copper in foods and in nature itself... Even our micro ferts have copper in them... Plants and fish tho need copper to survive but were you aware the the copper pipes in a new house can leach copper into your water for the first 5 years. My point was to check it out it could be the issue and it is as simple as putting some cuprasorb in a bag in the filter and your done.
I would think Darkblade would know what he's talking about...
There are a lot of myths out there. Personally, I haven't had any issues with separating anubias rhyzomes in shrimp tanks. I've done it with my RCS, CRS, and BOTES, no one has had the slightest issue with it. People like to hang on to "excuses", if you will, about why things in their tank are dying.
I believe Prime detoxifies heavy metals like copper. One of the reasons it's the only water treatment I will use.
I agree with the temp. That's about 82 degrees Fahrenheit; my CRS started dying off at around 78 degrees F.
There are a lot of myths out there. Personally, I haven't had any issues with separating anubias rhyzomes in shrimp tanks. I've done it with my RCS, CRS, and BOTES, no one has had the slightest issue with it. People like to hang on to "excuses", if you will, about why things in their tank are dying.
I believe Prime detoxifies heavy metals like copper. One of the reasons it's the only water treatment I will use.
I agree with the temp. That's about 82 degrees Fahrenheit; my CRS started dying off at around 78 degrees F.
Could you provide a link, please?You might want to check over at az inverts forum because that is where I got that information.
As for the copper, as mentioned, Prime is a good water conditioner that will bind up the heavy metal.
Unfortunately, correlation does not always imply causation. Just because you see shrimp dying, and you have copper pipes does not necessarily mean they are leeching copper and killing your shrimp, etc. It is possible, but not necessarily the case.
An extreme example: I see fire trucks at houses that have caught on fire. The larger the fire, the more fire trucks there are. Therefore, fires are caused by fire trucks. :flick:
Thank you very much for the replies I really appreciate it. Iniatially am thinking about the copper in the water issue but am just wondering why the yellow shrimps are able to tolerate the water why the CRS can not tolerate it given the fact that CRS are one of the hardy shrimp species.
I will try to do something about the temperature and check for the copper levels. Luckily the CRS are not as expensive as the RCS.
Again thank you so much for your replies.
I will try to do something about the temperature and check for the copper levels. Luckily the CRS are not as expensive as the RCS.
Again thank you so much for your replies.
I think you are getting the two species mix up here.Thank you very much for the replies I really appreciate it. Iniatially am thinking about the copper in the water issue but am just wondering why the yellow shrimps are able to tolerate the water why the CRS can not tolerate it given the fact that CRS are one of the hardy shrimp species.
I will try to do something about the temperature and check for the copper levels. Luckily the CRS are not as expensive as the RCS.
Again thank you so much for your replies.
Crs = crystal red shrimps is more expensive
Rcs = red cherry shrimp less expensive
Crs is the one that is more sensitive to water conditions.
ooops sorry. I thought RCS - Red Crystal Shrimp and CRS stands for Cherry Red Shrimp.:redface:
Red cherry shrimp should do well in that water and crs would do well also, provided you reduced the temperature to around 23C. That said, it's odd that your rcs are dying in those parameters.Thank you very much for the replies I really appreciate it. Iniatially am thinking about the copper in the water issue but am just wondering why the yellow shrimps are able to tolerate the water why the CRS can not tolerate it given the fact that CRS are one of the hardy shrimp species.
I will try to do something about the temperature and check for the copper levels. Luckily the CRS are not as expensive as the RCS.
Again thank you so much for your replies.
I think your shrimp are dying because of the co2 injection. It's very common for inexperienced shrimp keepers to have deaths when using co2. Aside from the tank's temperature, all your parameters are perfect for both species!
7th paragraph contains the nonsense about anubias and crypts http://www.planetinverts.com/breeding softwater shrimp by kenshin.htmlCould you provide a link, please?
I don't like publicly trashing other sites, but as you can see from this article, planetinverts is not a good place to get information!!!!!
I just skimmed the article quickly, but there are many things that I found questionable. It is always a good idea to double check (or triple check!) what you read (whether it be online, or even from a printed source).
Stop the co2.
Don't do so many water changes.
It's a 5 gallon tank with low bio load.
Just top off the tank.
My best suggestion.
Don't do so many water changes.
It's a 5 gallon tank with low bio load.
Just top off the tank.
My best suggestion.
How long have the tank been running???
The tank has been running for almost a month before I started putting the shrimps.How long have the tank been running???
Just an update on the current batch of shrimps that I have in my tank . I still have 10 (5 cherry and 5 yellow) out of the intial 20 shrimps. My CO2 is currently running at only 1-2 bps.
I also saw 3 empty shrimp shells. Are those from dead shrimps or molted shells. I've seen 2-3 of my cherry shrimps hiding on the driftwood crevice for 3 days now. The rest are non-stop roaming around.
Those are just molts.I also saw 3 empty shrimp shells. Are those from dead shrimps or molted shells. I've seen 2-3 of my cherry shrimps hiding on the driftwood crevice for 3 days now. The rest are non-stop roaming around.
The tank has been running for almost a month before I started putting the shrimps.
Just an update on the current batch of shrimps that I have in my tank . I still have 10 (5 cherry and 5 yellow) out of the intial 20 shrimps. My CO2 is currently running at only 1-2 bps.
I also saw 3 empty shrimp shells. Are those from dead shrimps or molted shells. I've seen 2-3 of my cherry shrimps hiding on the driftwood crevice for 3 days now. The rest are non-stop roaming around.
I think your tank has not been fully cycled yet.
Sometime it took more than a month to cycled a tank.
The empty shrimp shells are molted shell.
Those 2-3 cherry hiding might be the one who had molted.
They are hiding because they are pretty fragile after a fresh molt.
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