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what else do you keep?
Hi and welcome to the Hobby!
As far as I know, Legally any shrimp listed here can be kept without a permit(I think?). So pretty much just brine shrimp.
Here is another thread on shrimp in Hawaii.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=407474&highlight=shrimp
Pm me I'll talk to you about legalities cause talking about politics is not allowed here
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I hear you on dat. But.. Not much we can do.
I have a lot of extra shrimp from a local stream..... Someone here on da forums hooked me up. Would you like some? They berry fast too
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Welcome to TPT. If you visit any of our LFS on the island, the feeder shrimp that you'll find there are wild forms of Neocardina davidi. They can also be caught in pretty much all of our streams. :bounce:
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Welcome chimp!!
To clear up everything here in years of misunderstanding. Any but one species of shrimp is illegal to import. State department of ag says if it's non listed it's illegal to own too and sell. If anyone is caught selling shrimp here or anywhere on any forums they will prosecute. Which really sucks! Neocaridina davidi aka neo caridina sp and the caridina sp var and caridina Cantonensis is all illegal. Even though they are in our streams they still are not on the approved list. I know a good friend and mentor of mine that got raided and got everything taken away.
Now he's working with department of ag to revise the list and do some major changes because it's very unclear on what is and what is not allowed to own. I also know a lot of people here don't like him cause of certain reason. But let's make this clear he's about the hobby and he's not a business. He been meeting with several board members of the ag department to clarify the rules. Even though a lot of people may not like him daboss808 aka shayne. He doing a lot for us young hobbiest. I had taken the time to look into some species of fish that selective store have and let me tell you something not all the fish are conditionally approved by state department of ag. Now who do you think gets fine and possible jail time? Us! They may get a fine and or possible probation but we also suffer too. Why do you think private importers are here cause they have a special approved list issued by state department of ag. They pay higher importing rate rather than lfs like coral reef, Aquascapes, petsplus, petco, Petland, etc.
I would like to leave with this comment. All those that may have beef and or may not like daboss I think you should reconsider your thoughts. He's the one who helping with rule changes with department of agriculture and making shrimp, new aquatic plants, and new/ exotic fish species legal. Hopefully there will be no more non listed animals that are illegal. Only illegal species will be the detrimental species to our environment. This is a hobby lets forget the past and move forward. I know some people that support Aquascapes has particular beef with him but in the long run let's remind our selves who did the shrimp rule change none of our lfs stores can't only people driven to like daboss
To clear up everything here in years of misunderstanding. Any but one species of shrimp is illegal to import. State department of ag says if it's non listed it's illegal to own too and sell. If anyone is caught selling shrimp here or anywhere on any forums they will prosecute. Which really sucks! Neocaridina davidi aka neo caridina sp and the caridina sp var and caridina Cantonensis is all illegal. Even though they are in our streams they still are not on the approved list. I know a good friend and mentor of mine that got raided and got everything taken away.
Now he's working with department of ag to revise the list and do some major changes because it's very unclear on what is and what is not allowed to own. I also know a lot of people here don't like him cause of certain reason. But let's make this clear he's about the hobby and he's not a business. He been meeting with several board members of the ag department to clarify the rules. Even though a lot of people may not like him daboss808 aka shayne. He doing a lot for us young hobbiest. I had taken the time to look into some species of fish that selective store have and let me tell you something not all the fish are conditionally approved by state department of ag. Now who do you think gets fine and possible jail time? Us! They may get a fine and or possible probation but we also suffer too. Why do you think private importers are here cause they have a special approved list issued by state department of ag. They pay higher importing rate rather than lfs like coral reef, Aquascapes, petsplus, petco, Petland, etc.
I would like to leave with this comment. All those that may have beef and or may not like daboss I think you should reconsider your thoughts. He's the one who helping with rule changes with department of agriculture and making shrimp, new aquatic plants, and new/ exotic fish species legal. Hopefully there will be no more non listed animals that are illegal. Only illegal species will be the detrimental species to our environment. This is a hobby lets forget the past and move forward. I know some people that support Aquascapes has particular beef with him but in the long run let's remind our selves who did the shrimp rule change none of our lfs stores can't only people driven to like daboss
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Also be aware of people u deal with someone here or on forums had ratted out daboss out of jealously and grudge. So be careful he knows who it is and he still refuses to give up the particular person. But karma will get to them.
Another thing is that whoever did rat him out just cause a lot of discomfort to a lot of shrimp enthusiast.
Another thing is that whoever did rat him out just cause a lot of discomfort to a lot of shrimp enthusiast.
Wow thats pretty sad I figured everybody here would be supportive to the hobby.
wow, how come hawaii forums always get some form of drama? lol J/K. I just joined up the forum this year, long time hobbyist who was on long sabbatical, too long. I've been interested in shrimps too, back 10 years ago, only had the feeder shrimp in the pet store. As far as what is legal to own and stuff, I don't know exactly what the law is, but for sure, you can't bring in anything except for common stuff in petshops.
I've been keeping my eye on CRS, want some, and what did I find today? a certain LPS on Oahu, sells them. My friend told me he saw, I called BS, called them up, and sure enough, they were selling. :icon_eek: they say they bought from local breeder, so its legit, blah blah.... I don't care for the politics, if I can buy from another hobbyist or LPS, I'd buy.
I'm too old to deal with the BS, at a certain point, you just fork out the benjies, and get the stuff you want, no need ask questions. :smile:
I've been keeping my eye on CRS, want some, and what did I find today? a certain LPS on Oahu, sells them. My friend told me he saw, I called BS, called them up, and sure enough, they were selling. :icon_eek: they say they bought from local breeder, so its legit, blah blah.... I don't care for the politics, if I can buy from another hobbyist or LPS, I'd buy.
I'm too old to deal with the BS, at a certain point, you just fork out the benjies, and get the stuff you want, no need ask questions. :smile:
Wow what's going on here with all this illegal shrimps and fishes. I thought planted tank with some nice shrimps whould look sooooo nice but I guess not.
What happends when DOA comes and take away your shrimps do you get busted or thay just give warnings.
What happends when DOA comes and take away your shrimps do you get busted or thay just give warnings.
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It's sad bro. People can be really deceiving. It's very sad. You would be surprised how many people here has illegal stuff according to the DOA. They know the people all it takes is one complaint
There are many scenarios. They could arrest you, fine you, or just take um and pens the investigation. All depends on the investigator and his day. Fines could go up too 250,000 dollars and or up too 30 days in jail.
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