need inline for 180 gallon

The best solution would be a DIY inline heater similar to mine:

http://plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=158200&highlight=diy+inline+heater

Then you can put any heater you want in it, when made as you need. Mine runs horizontal and I've never had a risk. I also use a temp controller with it for my piece of mind.

PM me if you're interested and I can help you out with sourcing parts. If push comes to shove I could assemble one to spec, but it is really easy and cheap to DIY.

In combination with one of these 500 or 800 watt heaters you'd be golden:
http://www.finnex.net/index.php?pag...category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=61

Heater Adapter for Sumps: Use on Wet-Dry sumps, Central System Sumps,
Heater modules: heaters are installed inline from pump output.
Unbreakable high wattage Titanium Submersible Heaters with controller in sumps or wet-drys.

http://www.jehmco.com/html/heaters.html#Heater Module

add two hydors

I did a DIY inline heater as well. cost me about 9 dollars in PVC parts. It's in my signature. I recommend that as the way to go.

Thanks for the responses guys gonna go with the dyi looks simple enough