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Need help with CO2 diffusion.

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Let me start by saying my current setup (with an in tank Green Leaf Atomic Diffuser along with a small powerhead to send the bubbles to the other side of the tank) works fine but my tank looks like a snow globe. I cannot stand all the tiny bubbles which, I assume, also blocks quite a bit of light. I am running a wet/dry trickle filter which is hard plumbed. So my questions are:

1) Can I just put the diffuser in the sump next to the return pump or will the bubbles just travel the 3-4 feet of PVC up and into the tank, which would leave me right were I am at? Will I lose a lot of CO2 with the water being pushed up from the sump into the tank?

2) Since everything is already hard plumbed, I assume the only way I can use a reactor in the sump is to have a second pump push the water through the reactor, and back into the sump? Again, will I lose a lot of CO2 this way?

3) The only other option I can think of is to not use the powerhead to push the bubbles across the tank....but I assume that will only supply CO2 to the side of the tank where the diffuser sits (it is a 60G tank)?

Sorry for all the questions...I need to get this figured out. The bubbles are driving me crazy.
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you can diffuse the co2 through an atomizer. it will create the smallest of bubbles and disappear faster. you can hid it in the back or hook it up to your outflow on your filter.

i enjoy the bubbles in the tank. i think it looks nice. not sure how your bubbles will block the light though.
Just make a DIY Rex Griggs style reactor and plumb to the output of the pump you already have in your sump. If you just have a straight PVC pipe running directly up into the tank it should be super easy to just plumb in a loop to a section of 2" PVC to use as a reactor then come back up and connect back to your existing output.

If you really don't want to mess with the plumbing (which IMO you should - this would be the easiest) then you could run a second pump with a reactor looping back into the sump like you mentioned in option 2. I don't think you would lose much CO2 at all (if any) doing this method but you would need to buy another pump...
Just make a DIY Rex Griggs style reactor and plumb to the output of the pump you already have in your sump. If you just have a straight PVC pipe running directly up into the tank it should be super easy to just plumb in a loop to a section of 2" PVC to use as a reactor then come back up and connect back to your existing output.

If you really don't want to mess with the plumbing (which IMO you should - this would be the easiest) then you could run a second pump with a reactor looping back into the sump like you mentioned in option 2. I don't think you would lose much CO2 at all (if any) doing this method but you would need to buy another pump...
I have no problem plumbing in a loop but unfortunately there isn't any room. I have a union right after the return pump and from there there is next to no room before a 90 which then feeds the return back into the tank. I ran into the same problem on my reef (I bought the same stand and aquarium, just smaller). To install two reactors, I had to loop a horizontal section way out and then bring it back.
I have no problem plumbing in a loop but unfortunately there isn't any room. I have a union right after the return pump and from there there is next to no room before a 90 which then feeds the return back into the tank. I ran into the same problem on my reef (I bought the same stand and aquarium, just smaller). To install two reactors, I had to loop a horizontal section way out and then bring it back.
What's wrong with that? You spend $3 on PVC vs $40+ on an extra pump?
What's wrong with that? You spend $3 on PVC vs $40+ on an extra pump?
I see your point but I do already have the extra pump which means I won't have to cut up my existing plumbing. Either way, is it safe to assume that I won't lose any CO2 in the water that is being pumped back into the tank up through the PVC from the sump? The return will be submerged in the tank. Thanks for your help.
I am doing the exact same thing and am in the same boat. My guess though is my tank is smaller. I think I am going to get ista reactor as I am not a diy guy.
I have a 60 gallon tank....I think I am just going to go with a reactor to inject the sump water with CO2 and hope there is no loss as it travels up the PVC into the tank.
I have my atomic diffuser directly in front of the intake on my sump pump. It sucks in the CO2, pumps up 6 feet, and spreads it within the 125g tank via 4 loc-line diffusers. I have a drop checker in the last compartment before the return section of my pump and it shows exactly the right color. So this is a very effective way to disperse CO2 and GreenLeaf also recommends this method.
I have my atomic diffuser directly in front of the intake on my sump pump. It sucks in the CO2, pumps up 6 feet, and spreads it within the 125g tank via 4 loc-line diffusers. I have a drop checker in the last compartment before the return section of my pump and it shows exactly the right color. So this is a very effective way to disperse CO2 and GreenLeaf also recommends this method.
Great...thanks for the confirmation that this will work. One question though, have you ever put the drop checker in the DT? I assume the sump water would be fine...it is CO2 loss between there and the tank that I was worried about. I assume you don't have much though, otherwise your plants would show it.
Great...thanks for the confirmation that this will work. One question though, have you ever put the drop checker in the DT? I assume the sump water would be fine...it is CO2 loss between there and the tank that I was worried about. I assume you don't have much though, otherwise your plants would show it.
I had it in the tank for a few days but my girlfriend didn't like looking at it so we moved it to the sump. When it was in the DT, the color was perfect. Where it is in the sump, however, the water is fully circulated before it hits that point. It is just before the return section so for the water to get to the drop-checker, it has to go through the pump, up to the tank, through the tank, through the drain plumbing and through 2 other sections of the sump.

I am going to change the fluid today or tomorrow anyway and just for fun I will stick it somewhere in the display tank just to make sure my circulation of CO2 is good. I'll report back what it does.
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