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Hi folks.

I need a new centerpice fish for my tank. I want it to be docile, hardy, low maintenance, not a poop machine and easy to find.

Here are some tank params:

•18 gallon tropical planted tank
•low tech - no CO2, no ferts, low-med lights
•ph of 8 or above, hardness is also pretty high
• nitrate: 5-10ppm
•current inhabitants: neon tetra, zebra danio, ramshorn snails and MTS.

Thanks!
 

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Sme of them are so charming in their personalities -- there are a couple of threads about them. Search function would bring them up.
 

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DGs may not like the hard water, but if you keep it stable, they should be fine.
 

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what about a female bolvian ram, there more hardy than german blue rams and they dont get to big and they have an intresting personality but some can been a bit mischevious but genrally there nice little fish i have a pair in my 20g
 

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what about a female bolvian ram, there more hardy than german blue rams and they dont get to big and they have an intresting personality but some can been a bit mischevious but genrally there nice little fish i have a pair in my 20g
+1 love Bolivians and German Blue Rams. There's a member on here that sells GBRs tank raised. If interested, look in the for sale section.
 

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I don't think gouramis will do well in such high ph. I've heared some actually die of such high ph.

How would rams do in my tank condition?
What are DGs?

It looks like these fish do not like high ph and hard water.

More suggestion please.
 

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I think the DG was just a shorthand for dwarf gourami.

I have some honey gouramis in my 25 jungle tank, along with a school of 18 hengelis rasboras. They are bright yellow, with red tips on the fins. There is also a pink variety available. They're maybe 1.5-2 inches long. Interesting personalitys. They almost exclusivley live off of roots from my amazon frogbit. For some reason I find it hilarious the way they lunge at it and shake their head to tear a piece off. They ignore my cherry shrimp, which is rare for gouramis, and every now and then school with the rasboras, but generally they just explore through the floating plants.

Ive read that licorice gourami's can be ferocious with shrimp and actively hunt down and tear them apart. Just a warning if youre thinking about dwarf gouramis.
 

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Don't know whats easily available in the Philippines but,

Maybe the larger livebarers like a male sailfin Molly or a lyretail swordtail, i mention these becuase they reach around 4" are low maint. and prefer hard water with high Ph. and they can be very beautiful.
 

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Don't know whats easily available in the Philippines but,

Maybe the larger livebarers like a male sailfin Molly or a lyretail swordtail, i mention these becuase they reach around 4" are low maint. and prefer hard water with high Ph. and they can be very beautiful.
Wow I've never seen Molly that big!
 

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QUOTE=SpecGrrl;2087604]Wow I've never seen Molly that big![/QUOTE]

:fish:a male sailfin molly can easily get 4" long, the thing is most people only see young fish for sale @ lfs & often it belies the fishes actual size @ maturity:fish:
 

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Hi guys, thanks for all the suggestions. My pH is really high but it is rock stable. To be honest, when I first set up this tank a couple years ago, during the first day it was around 7.6 and a few days later it became 8+ until this day with no significant fluctuations.

I will try out the DGs since my pH is very stable. If I couldn't find one then I will go with livebearers.

Can anyone give me a good male to femal ratio for the following?
•Guppy/Endler's Livebearer
•Molly
•Platy
 

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For all livebearers, go one male to three females. The males are very.... sexually aggressive. They will tire out only one or two females with their constant mating attempts, and they will harass other males who are competing with them if there are not enough females around.

Not violent to the death harassing like with bettas or african cichlids, but its still best to keep this ratio to keep everyone happy.

Livebearers also come from hard water with a high ph, and are ridiculously hardy, so they are a good choice. Also most of them will eat algae. And mollys will eat surface scum off the water surface.

A single large male, solid black lyretail molly is a spectactular thing to behold, in my opinion. And they are brackish, can easily aclimate to full strength saltwater at ph 8.4, so they should do fine in your water.
 
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