Male or Femal betta

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Stray Wolf

Discussion Starter · Mar 9, 2017 (Edited)

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So i bought two femal bettas from a petstore they were together in a tank with 5 other female bettas. I have a 26 gallon tank lots of plants almost no Surface movement and only 3 Albino corydoras in it. So i put the two femals in that tank after aclimating them. i released them at the same time due to the fact they were in the same bag. And at first everything looked nice until one of them started flaring at my male betta next to the female tank. could it be that te female flaring at the male is really a male Plakat? i cant see a eggspot and she ist dark colored so it should be easy to see right? i tried to identify the gender myself but due to the fact in only had a male halfmoon with pretty big fins and never a female i cant definitly determin the gender.

Is it a agressiv female or a male Plakat?

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justinmo

· #2 · Mar 10, 2017

You shouldn't simply have 2 bettas in a tank. To do a betta sorority it's best to get a minimum of 5 and heavily plant your tank. A sorority can sometimes work and sometimes fail so you should do a lot of research before committing to it, you should also have a separation plan if things don't work out. Female bettas CAN flare but it's smaller. I can't help much with identifying the gender though he/she looks like a female to me.

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AquaAurora

· #3 · Mar 11, 2017

As stated above you're doomed to failure in the current setup. 2 is not enough-the more dominant female will harass the other to death even in a 30+g. You need a group 5 or more and very densely planted tank (should not be able to see back wall from front, and if looking from side wall of tank cannot see to other side.
I have 9 in a densely planted 20g long. Can't see the back wall or from end to end as its covered in plants giving a lot of line of sight break up from substrate all the way to surface. They still fight sometimes and have occasional nipped fins but nothing serious because there's enough of them to spread out the aggression and enough plants for a victim of nipping to get away easy 'out of sight, out of mind'.
Also cory are shoaling fish and should be in groups of 6 or more of the same type (get more albinos).

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BettaBettas

· #4 · Mar 11, 2017

agree with above comments

Nordic

· #5 · Mar 11, 2017

I'd put a drilled opaque piece of acrylic in the tank as a divider.

BettaBettas

· #6 · Mar 11, 2017

Stray Wolf said:
So i bought two femal bettas from a petstore they were together in a tank with 5 other female bettas. I have a 26 gallon tank lots of plants almost no Surface movement and only 3 Albino corydoras in it. So i put the two femals in that tank after aclimating them. i released them at the same time due to the fact they were in the same bag. And at first everything looked nice until one of them started flaring at my male betta next to the female tank. could it be that te female flaring at the male is really a male Plakat? i cant see a eggspot and she ist dark colored so it should be easy to see right? i tried to identify the gender myself but due to the fact in only had a male halfmoon with pretty big fins and never a female i cant definitly determin the gender.
Is it a agressiv female or a male Plakat?

Corys must be in a minimum of 6 in a school. they wont thrive without 6 or more. You need at least 6 female bettas to make a sorority, better if more. they will fight and kill each other pretty much if you don't do this.

Stray Wolf

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 13, 2017

first of all, thanks for your answers
second, i get 4 other females today, i orderd them at my lokal pet store. i bought two females because originally i would get 3 more from a friend on saturday, but this didnt happend.
i had 6 Corys in my tank but they chased each other around so much they wouldnt settle down at all. a few days later i asked the guy at the pet store about that, and he sugessted that i should try and catch the troublermaker and put them i another tank, even if they are fish that likes Groups of six i couldnt watch that chasing anymore. so i put three away in another tank, the three in my 26 gallon tank settled in and everything was fine. even the three seperate ones settled in in another tank. so i let them be in two Groups of three.

Oh before i forgett it i get more plants today, and one Piece of thriftwood is currently haning in my Pond goes in the tank when times is right.

have an nyce day all:grin2:

NickAu

· #8 · Mar 13, 2017

I can also see an egg spot.

Nordic

· #9 · Mar 14, 2017

Lol, corys are not chasing each other they are schooling or trying to spawn.... Check if the big ones are holding their ventral fins like praying hands (they catch their eggs before depositing it).

AquaAurora

· #10 · Mar 14, 2017

Males sometimes have false egg spots. My now deceased (from old age) male elephant ear betta had a false egg spot and short fins when I first got him, thought he was female! But he quickly grew out his fins and was very clearly male.
The best way to tell if its female is get the betta in a clear plastic cup and hold a light behind it, look for the egg sack
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f5/b8/0d/f5b80d1d5ccdbe2b3633bdb1361c36d3.jpg

Stray Wolf

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 19, 2017

found a bubble nest today

BettaBettas

· #12 · Mar 20, 2017

Stray Wolf said:
found a bubble nest today

have you taken anything we all said into "consideration"

Stray Wolf

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 21, 2017 (Edited)

yea i tried the "put them in a plastic Cup and flashlight them to look if they have the triangle shape inside the Body" and the answer to that is that both of them dont have this shape, after theyr vetral fins they are see throw. no shape nothing.

and yes i have put the Corys back on the 19.03 the day i found the bubble nest, and they dont look happy to me. they are in two Groups of three, no schooling or anything. no eggs no "praying Hand fins"

so yea i did what you guys said.

oh and yea the other 4 female are actually females cause the have much much Shorter ventral fins than my other two "female" that i flashed.

BettaBettas

· #14 · Mar 21, 2017

nice

what do you mean they don't look happy btw.
Corys don't school 24/7, not even mine really do they just stay within a foot of eachother..

Stray Wolf

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 21, 2017 (Edited)

one Group is in the left Corner and the other Group is in the right Corner i sat infront of the tank for almost three hours to make sure everyone is fine especially with the nasty betta "female" just to make sure.
But the only time the corys interakted with each other were the first few minutes after putting the seperated one back into the big tank. after that they seperated in two Groups. they hang around in two Groups, after feeding they seperate in two Groups and swim in different directions. before that they swam activly trough the tank (like lets explore our world one more time) now each Group sits in their Corner. no swiming no interacting no "praying Hands" nothing, almost like a kid sulking in the "naughty Corner" Like "why the hell did you do that to us, we were fine before"

the tank is one meter Long so approximately three foot(- is what Google tells me so dont know if it is right, cause i measure in meter and not foot)
so each group has almost 90 centimeter approximately 2.5 foot space between them.

so my nasty betta "female" i can assume is a male Plakat because of the missing egg sack as i flashed it. but that would mean that i have now two male Plakat and 4 female bettas, but the two "females" i got first are getting along pretty fine, no flaring no chasing, Swimming next to each other. cause i flashed both to see what a egg sack Looks like to see it better on the nasty one, but they are both missing the egg sack.

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BettaBettas

· #16 · Mar 21, 2017

Well all the bettas in that tank should be female, if you have one that's a male I suggest returning it because it will surely die, IMO like 99 percent chance. I also don't know what you mean when your talking about this triangle stuff... and flashing things?... if you had two males period they would be dead by now, or one of them would and the other would be living by a strand. Im confident you have all females.

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