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I picked these things up the other day at a pet stor that is relocating. They are selling everything for 50% off. I had been eyeing these thinsg for about 8 months ( not for sale, discuss display tank ). I offered the guy in charge of the store a few bucks and he sold them to me.

The green one has 9 pads floating. Some of the leaves are torn and eaten maybe. I want to pull the leaves off but I want to do it right. Every where I read, people say to pull the leaves off for various reasons. Great, I want to do that too....where do I trim the leaves? At the top, leaving the long stems to remain? Do I clip it way down at the base of the plant?

When I clip them off, is it best to leave a pad or two for the plant? Am I OK to remove them all?

One last question while I have this thing open.... I am foolish to hang two 10,000K, 34" (92 watt ) compact fluorescent lights over a moderately planted tank?

Thanks for your help, I am aware of the plant pages... I read them and didn't find an answer to my question. I willl go and find the lighting section now, but I would like to know what you all think about the lights.

Thanks again.
Nate
 

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Hi nrisen, welcome to PTF;

I would cut the stem about a centimeter away from the root ball or rhizome of the plant, of leaves you do not like, and do not attempt to pull the stems out. however you must not cut them all for the plant to recover as it still needs some exposed leaf surface for photosynthesis to feed and energize the remaining recovering plant. also cut off any really soggy and slimy roots that seem obviously rotted to you. the plant will look pretty sad, but will recover nicely in a few Months. make sure you keep the part of the root where the stems come out resting on the gravel, not under it. to ensure the best recovery, try to get some Seachem Plant Tabs fertilizer and put one under the root ball of every one or two plants once you insert them in your gravel.

as for hanging too much light; remember the light is one component for plant growth, the others being fertilizers and Co2. so the more light you provide, the more ferts and Co2 the plants will require to benefit from those lights. if you are not supplementing ferts or Co2 then stay conservative with your lights for now. once you start using additional ferts and Co2 regularly, then you can see if more light will benefit your plants further. next time you ask about light be sure to provide the gallon size of your tank so we can better determine the watts per gallon your lighting can provide. take the total wattage and divide it by the number of gallons your tank is rated. assuming you are not using ferts or Co2, if your calculation result is less than 1.5wpg you may have too little light for plants, and if it's over 4.0wpg you may have too much light and end up growing more algae than plants. those were general guidelines, as many peoples results do vary.
 

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Trim the stems about 1/8 on an inch from the base.
Trim all or a few .........what ever you feel like doing . The plant won't care.

As for the light, I'm not much help,but for those that can help.
What size tank are you wanting to hang the lights over???


*edit* I have to learn to type faster.
 

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I trimmed them back and they look great. It had like 10 pads when I brough it home last week. I left 5 of the smallest ones on.

Do you have any experience with Ken Pro Plant and Fresh WaterPlant?
Is it a great or good idea to upgrade my Co2 system from the yeast activated CO2 thing to a pressurized system>

46 gallon bow
2,34" compact fluorescent ( 96 watts, 10,000k and actinic ).
 

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many people new to plant keeping use that liquid combination.
the problem with liquids are the micro trace minerals, and
macro nutrients that occur in your tank naturally, like nitrate
and phosphate, are all mixed in the liquid at ratios that may
not be best for your tank. In my case, my tank was producing
too much nitrate naturally, so using those liquids only made
my algae and other problems worse. If you use liquids I would
advice minimal feeding to your fish, getting a nitate test kit,
to make sure your nitrates don't get out of hand.

If you study this forum further, you will see how most of us
use powder plant fertilizers which are not only cheaper but
allow us to better control the ratio of micro and macro ferts
to better suit the unique condition of our tank and tap water.

a compressed Co2 system is a $200-$300 investment.
you may want to stay with DIY Co2 until you gain more
confidence in your plant keeping abilities. in the mean
time, avoid plants that require extra Co2 to thrive.

note: your actinic (blue) bulb does not benefit your plants
as much as another white (6700k|10000k) bulb would.
 

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awesome, thanks. I have learned quite a 'bit already....there are a lot of cool web sights and threads here.
 
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