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You can't take a factor of a planted tank and call it the main variable. I know ppl doing this with microtox if light and co2 are good then=ferts, I've seen it done with co2, but co2 utilization peaks, its not what makes the tank. If it was, then everyone can do this. I've done a wide range of moderate to higher levels of co2 with not much or no differences, I've done it with lighting. I've seen nutrients cause algae and nutrients not cause algae. It doesn't mean you should go ei. My reason that ei works so well, is that the people successful with it have a wide range of plants, plants mass as well as algae busters. Algae busters, I think the reason ei works well is that you have super fast growing plants absorbing all that gunk in the water and as well you've got the reset with water changes. When I look at my planted tank, its consuming so much resources with the amount of water changes and materials I put into the tank. These plants are like ludwigia reds and pantanal, floaters, foregrounds...
 

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Uaupes vs Giant
Both species splits a lot. However if you trim giant leaves or bottom the plant, it hinders growth severely. With uaupes, it just keeps growing, splits and splits. Giant is easier of the two and has more uniform growth in groups. Uaupes will always be my favorite. Giant roots way better, Uaupes hardly roots into the soil. Rio negro 2006 roots in very well to the other two, but will get into that species when grow out more full adult plants. See in pics how uaupes can take different shape depending on water parameters
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Lenghty vs short
This is how I want my tank but way shorter.
overgrown but tall



short but not overgrown


In fresh Malaya, the syns(not all) will grow more lengthier. I want the main tank with all predominantly s grades and giants and maybe lago grande. I'm afraid of capping new Malaya soil and redoing the tank as I really don't want to deal with cyano and lenghty syns.






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actual start of journal
1. main tank of syns
2. moss frag tank
3. syn propagation tank (sand)
 

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Naw it's a inert sub. I think it is coral sand or something.
Oh gotcha, I was thinking you knew what it was and seeing if anybody could guess it haha. I thought it may have been a good use for accumulated used phosguard instead of throwing it out because it looked so similar. I guess it would be a little light to plant in tho…

Seems like a coral sand would buffer water higher if it were aragonite/calcium based, but looking around led me to this: https://www.sciencesource.com/archive/Coral-Sand-from-Apo-Island-SS2432107.html#/SearchResult&ITEMID=SS2432107
Getting warmer maybe?


Beautiful plants man, I never tried Syns but enjoy looking at yours
 

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Naw it's a inert sub. I think it is coral sand or something.
Oh gotcha, I was thinking you knew what it was and seeing if anybody could guess it haha. I thought it may have been a good use for accumulated used phosguard instead of throwing it out because it looked so similar. I guess it would be a little light to plant in tho…

Seems like a coral sand would buffer water higher if it were aragonite/calcium based, but looking around led me to this: https://www.sciencesource.com/archi...SS2432107.html#/SearchResult&ITEMID=SS2432107
Getting warmer maybe?


Beautiful plants man, I never tried Syns but enjoy looking at yours
Ya looks like it almost the same with bits here and there. Yes I forgot about the leech and it was very porous for planting. Thanks for reply.
 

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Sorry, I missed this post.
Your PH is very low, as you know. Do you know what your kh/gh is? I would think fish that come from Blackwater regions: Rummynose, Black neons, neons, cardinal tetras, some corydoras, discus, Angels, etc.. would work well in your water.
Regardless of where you purchase fish and what kind, with a Ph so low I would slowely acclimate them to your water to not induce osmoregulatory shock.
 

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Sorry, I missed this post.
Your PH is very low, as you know. Do you know what your kh/gh is? I would think fish that come from Blackwater regions: Rummynose, Black neons, neons, cardinal tetras, some corydoras, discus, Angels, etc.. would work well in your water.
Regardless of where you purchase fish and what kind, with a Ph so low I would slowely acclimate them to your water to not induce osmoregulatory shock.
Ty for the suggestions. I'll look into them. Kh is 0 and gh is around 1
 

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start of journal

Tank 1, main tank


20 gallon long tank
lighting is x2 beamswork dafspec, I only use the warms, currently dimmed to 7 on each fixture
5 hour photoperiod
co2, gla regulator, mr aqua turbo diffuser, 2nd size up, I think 400 or 600
stream of bps
SunSun 402b with uv on
pure ro water, light remin (lowkeys gh booster) few drops
random water changes, random dosing

full tank shot as of 2/5/2020
as well segment shots








so now i'm back to fresh ada, growth should be ok but i'm sure lenghty unless I can do dosing different dosing regime, as well algae can/will flourish unless I keep up the water changes
well the tank looks bad anyways so here.
Steps I may or may not do
I'm gonna redo the tank
cap with Malaya soil, one 3l bag
suck up and scrape all algae on walls
add a moss wall
add wood with moss tied
add humic acid below cap
try to suck up all the powder Malaya followed by water changes
clean the filter (the flow is down quite a bit), replace fluval peat granules with new box
 

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As I age into aquariums, I now just want something I can look at all day and night. Before I was sales driven, now I'm not too worried on it. Most of them they come to me instead of advertising. And each sale is a cluster patch that leaves a gap. So I'm try focus more on making my tanks look better. heck I got all the time in the world.


So steps I did:
Uproot all plants
build a moss wall (weeping)
add a wood (mini weeping, buce)
suck up all deteriorated powder of Malaya (this stuff is bad, powder dust on plants, algae cause)
scrape all bba off glass by siphon, scrape/suck
tear off algae leaves of plants
cap top with 3l of Malaya soil
cleaned the filter (sunsun canister), added new fluval peat granules to filter, tossed old stuff
water change 80-90%
replant plants

so my goal, overgrown, many splits, full grown plants, no gaps, short

2/6/20-2/8/20








 

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So from 2/8/20 to about a couple of days ago from today I have been battling cyano daily. Each day I'd airline tube it off. I'd rather have cyano, id prefer as I can manage it, over bba or hair algae.

I have no fish and I've been able to blast co2. I see no difference as when I had it much lower, no difference at all. However, the soil is capped with new and my predictions of lenghty syngonanthus hasn't happened.

I still am having melting issues. I think this is due to not enough water changes. Its mainly my rio negro 2006 having the issues. I hate melt, its more problematic to me than any algae. I'm not really dosing at this point.




2/20/2020

So I removed a good amount of melting plants and rearranged some plants. As well to fill in the gap of the wood, I splitted some plants. I also have a fear that if I leave splits too long they'll eventually melt.

I am very determined to get back on track to this level.

I took out the wood, and put it in my frag acrylic tank. It wasn't sinking. The weeping moss wall is slowly growing but not in the pattern to my liking. Debating what to do about it all the while I'm gonna install a spiky moss sidewall.

Got 20# cylinders @ $60 each filled, good hydros.

New equipment coming mail today from a buddy.


current 3/2/2020 fts
 

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So I think I finally narrowed it down to the syngonanthus melting of leaves to be some kind of touching disease. When the plants are healthy they can interconnect just fine with enough light getting to each of the leaves. So I've taken out most of the melting plants and either planted to my other tank or just tossed depending on the amount of green in the plant left. The initial melt could've of been ammonia but its continuing to spread despite daily water change and algae removal. Despite algae, I can almost guarantee that the melt is not caused by algae. May hinder growth a little bit, but that is it. I remove cyano daily with a airline tube and touching of those leaves with the suction I think I also spread the melt that way too. This is all just thinking observation, I can't really know. I've also got bba, but I don't remove it. For that I'd have to uproot the plants and strip it off. I can do that anytime. The melt is my main focus. The sideshoots don't melt because I plant them and they get plenty of space and not touch each other. This is all disheartening and has hardened me a bit, but I'll continue my persistence in solving the melt. Working daily for a little bit. The tougher syns like giants and such don't get it at all. The leaves are green and strong despite algae as well. By now things are rooted in pretty well so I expect better results. Some stems of melt had very well rooted into the soil as I removed them.




I've been using a new led a friend of mine built me. It has full spread and can get par up over 300 real close to 400 par. I have it dimmed to about 70 par, 6 hrs light a day.



moss frag tank
 

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So while I'm manhandling my syn 20g long, I figure I start sharing my other two tanks as well. I'll start with the frag moss tank
I wasn't going to show this for awhile because I was gonna want to enter it into the iaplc competition. But that's kindve dumb that you can't
really share. Rather than wait for all it, I'll share progress and maybe enter to the aga. Nothing top ranking, just something I can look at.

Frag Moss Tank-advanced acrylics 36"x30"x12"high
eshopps wetdry system-media bioballs only
lighting- x6 bulb 36w ati dimmable 36" fixture, 2 bulbs per day, all 6 for taking pictures, sometimes
co2 pressurized injection
old ada Malaya and Africana, plus some Chinese soil, no real brand name
ro water, remineralized
top offs, no real water changes, probably x2 since its been set up
bluestar endlers
crs, bb, blue dream
manzanita wood for hardscape
center stump is probably Malaysian
buces, mosses, mainly
1 sword
This is just current progression. Tank is far from done, im waiting buces arrival, I have moss but am lazy to tie and glue, it takes a bit to get the motivation
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"U" can't invent a whole book of truth and prophecy. You can change it though and throughout time it can be well known as truth.
The puzzle of God
There is to me no doubt there is a God, but what kind?
I think myself God is a naturalist. The way He does things is a natural flow. Things slowly naturally, overtime, He is one major one of patience.
Buddhism makes a lot of sense in the ways to perceive life and how to channel energy in a positive mindset.
10 commandments on how to act
I myself grew up in a way as Islam, only believing in Allah without the "trying to make sense in my mind" that an Omnipotent divine being sending a part of himself that can perform miracles although still limited to body. I still believe the lather though based on prophecy. That changed me to Christianity.
Its a puzzle I'll never solve until I die
And even then will I know what happened?
There is a promise for me, and a revelation of truth so magnificient and worthy in the wait, my opinion
One thing, all most books have a savior, I believe that savior is all the same

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"U" can't invent a whole book of truth and prophecy. You can change it though and throughout time it can be well known as truth.
The puzzle of God
There is to me no doubt there is a God, but what kind?
I think myself God is a naturalist. The way He does things is a natural flow. Things slowly naturally, overtime, He is one major one of patience.
Buddhism makes a lot of sense in the ways to perceive life and how to channel energy in a positive mindset.
10 commandments on how to act
I myself grew up in a way as Islam, only believing in Allah without the "trying to make sense in my mind" that an Omnipotent divine being sending a part of himself that can perform miracles although still limited to body. I still believe the lather though based on prophecy. That changed me to Christianity.
Its a puzzle I'll never solve until I die
And even then will I know what happened?
There is a promise for me, and a revelation of truth so magnificient and worthy in the wait, my opinion
One thing, all most books have a savior, I believe that savior is all the same
 

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I'm just got some fish stock for my frag tank. I got rid of as much endlers and shrimp as I could.
Fish I got were 7 red severums from the lfs
and 12 elegan corydoras from wetspot (this place really knows how to do it)
The cories look really cool swimming together but are already dividing into their shoals and school groups. This is the beginning I caught on tape. I feed daily live blackworms to each fishes. I really
want to fatten the corydoras up. I liked them so much I got the other 12 remaining from wetspot should come in tomorrow.
These fishes including the severums have kept me way more entertained and fascinated then my other two plant tanks at the moment.

https://vimeo.com/400415407

somehow I already violated terms and service through vimeo so cant link the other two videos
 

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Almost any light will grow. I've even seen a youtube video of a 20000k (blue light) growing. Given almost any light will grow plants in your aquarium, it still is a whole nother variable in itself. There are so many different light options out there now. They all can work, you just got to work around it. Lighting is the major monster aspect in itself. It controls growth. So when people say factors like fertilizers or co2, it just may not be so to them answers, and the difference can be lighting. You see a trend of the t5s and different combinations of bulbs and certain height off the tank. A common setup that works real well and you see wonderful plants of result. Certain light, cause certain algaes? Yes I believe that. All the variables of lighting, some are repeat just different words for it-intensity, par, pur, spectrum, color, lux, kelvin, photoperiod. More more more things to look into. Some to never be learned. So ppl usually invest a lot into light? Why? I for one, want to be able to blast as well as dim, I want super fast growth for the plants that I do have. I don't know why it is, but it seems the t5 crowd does it better than the led crowd. I mean the top notch people. It all started with t8s,t12s with me, and I've seen some wonderful things with using those to grow. I noticed the difference in moss growths using powerglos, 50/50s, coralife 6500ks and 10ks..The co2 injection rate has changed as well as fertilization regimes for me, and as well few different lighting types of the leds, t5s, t8s, t12s and power compact. They all grow so well but I may have or may have not witnessed many different algae types in the different lightings I've used. Its funny how one tank gets a certain type of algae bba or bga ie, but never any other type of algae. I think overdosing co2 is overrated, at some point it stops getting used, maybe if increased lighting you can control it that way. Boost in growth doesn't all seem co2 related, I've done a few different injection rates myself. A lot of overdoing it, mainly in fear my plants would die. So I keep injection rates rather high, if I want to add fauna or so, I lower it but see no difference in rate of growth. But then again I've never measured ppm. Back to lighting, when I had my sbreeflights, I had lanky plants. Their site says, shifting the spectrum more towards red gives taller more lanky plants with thinner leaves that are farther apart. That's exactly what happened to my uaupes. They looked like lago grande. I claimed it was the ada soil, but it was actually the lighting. I've never really been a fan of the blue spectrum except for growing mosses. Otherwise, it doesn't please my eyes. Sbreef were the best leds I've tried so far. Seems like their information, they really know their light. Reds come out nice. Some leds I tried were too directional, like the bulbs shot straight down, this made huge algae issues, cause the par was also too high at certain points. Spread was off. I've advised lower the lighting the better, even for high light plants where spread is good, I don't even follow this, I always want more, faster. Not always the best approach, lower, patience I think is better. But you see really awesome stuff being done at higher par.

1. syn tank-battling bga, melting, hair algae
2. frag tank- 2 severums died, bacterial bloom, stabilized at 5, got rid of them to the lfs

3. reason I haven't posted this tank is its always been a failure, old Amazonia (failed), sand (failed), the stems never grew
So I turned this into a aquascape Wood and stems
 
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