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Invert die off, mostly

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When I first started getting into planted tanks, part of the reason was that I really, really wanted to keep shrimp. After setting up my 55g and cycling it I dumped in a bunch of ghost shrimp with my fish. Over the next few days, many died off. Then they started dying off more slowly, one or two a day over the next few weeks. They acted normally, eating and molting, but would just die until none were left. A few months later I tried again, with the same results (some of them fell to my giant pig-bastard of a black skirt tetra, but not many). I also tried putting amanos and a couple nerite snails in my 10g CPD tank, with the same pattern. Eventually I only had one shrimp left, and he had lasted maybe 10 or 11 days, when he molted and then died the day after. The snails lasted about the same. I keep my water pretty clean, with regular water changes. The water is very hard though. I also live in an old farm house with a lot of copper piping. I spoke with a guy at a LFS and he thought that the copper might be the problem. I agreed, but now that I've thought about it, I have pest-snails from plant orders that I've made, that I've been fighting pretty consistently over a year. Are the little pesty snails hardier and more adaptable to trace copper or do I have a more fundamental problem? Any opinions are appreciated, thanks
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Have you ever tested your water parameters?

Can you tells us more about your specific setup?
I've kept ghost shrimp before and had the same pattern. Many die early but a few live for over a year. I've been told that it has more to do with the conditions they are kept in at the pet store and their designation as feeders. I've never kept nerites.

Agreed with bostoneric; what is your setup?
I have a 55g and a 10g, both with the exact same water. Only difference is the 55 is kept at 72F and the 10 at 68F. Both are moderately to heavily planted with the high end of low lighting. No ferts or meds when the shrimp were in...

GH 180
KH 240
PH 7.5 (maybe as high as 7.8)
NO2 0
NO3 10

I've kept ghost shrimp before and had the same pattern. Many die early but a few live for over a year. I've been told that it has more to do with the conditions they are kept in at the pet store and their designation as feeders. I've never kept nerites.

Agreed with bostoneric; what is your setup?
I had read this in numerous places and figured the same, but NONE of them survived and eventually the same thing happened with Amanos that I bought from a very reputable seller....
GH 180 and KH 240!!!!! Wow.
He probably means ppm GH 180=9 and KH 240=13 I think.

If I remember correctly, divide ppm by 17.8
I sure hope so. hahaha sorry I was @ lunch on my phone when I read those numbers!
Yeah, ppm. Sorry, I'm realtively new to the water testing game.
Seems like your water is not good. Have you tried dosing formulas to neutralize harmful substances like chloramines, metals, etc before adding in your stocks?
Seems like your water is not good. Have you tried dosing formulas to neutralize harmful substances like chloramines, metals, etc before adding in your stocks?
I use Aquasafe plus
If your water is very hard, the shrimps can't molt properly which will cause them to die off. You have driftwood or clean almond leaves to soften the water? Use aged water when doing water changes may help too.
Have you tried other shrimps besides amanos and ghost? In my country, the very hardy shrimps are cherry reds. They do quite well in various water parameters as long as its clean.
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