[bsmith]

i have a 12 gallon eclipse tank with the eclipse 1 hood. i was wondering if there was a way i could introduce co2 into the tank with the eclipse hood. it has a bio wheel (i could easily remove this) but also the way the water is filtered i think all of the co2 would gas off.

any suggestions?

B

 

[Left C]

Hi B

Current offers a 1x32w retrofit for the Eclipse 12. It comes with a saltwater bulb though. It needs to be swapped for one for a planted tank.
http://current-usa.com/smartpaq.html

PFO lighting offers a generic 1x32w kit. http://www.pfolighting.com/AquariumPgFolder/aqCatVers2.pdf
Marine Depot sells it and you get your choice of bulbs (6700K or 10,000K).
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=YPF4111

Either of these kits will give you 2.7 wpg. Do you want to spend $90+ on this Eclipse tank?

You can always remove the bio-wheel if needed.

 

[LeapingGnome]

Well this post was about co2, but since LeftC brought up the lighting I'll mention that I bought a 32W sunpaq retrofit from thatpetplace.com for around $70 shipped and it has worked great for my Eclipse 12.

As far as co2 goes, I haven't done it, but I know if you look at the back of the tank where the filter wires come out that little open has a plastic peice you can take out to make a bigger opening, about 1.5" squared, if that helps any.

 

[bsmith]

As far as co2 goes, I haven't done it, but I know if you look at the back of the tank where the filter wires come out that little open has a plastic peice you can take out to make a bigger opening, about 1.5" squared, if that helps any.

as far as a place to run the tubing? i just thought that with the nature of the filter all of the co2 would gass off, there is sooooo much surface movement.

B

 

[tazcrash69]

FWIW, I run my eclipse tank as a low-light, low-tech and dose with Excel for the very reason you stated. (it's the ~5 gallon)

One other thing is that I can't grow nice background plants because all the light is up front in this design.

 

[Left C]

Sorry B, I thought your post was about lighting and CO2. Can you keep you water level very high to cut down on the spalshing? That what I did with my Eclipse 1 TL.

I used to have an Eclipse 1 TL (2x15w twin light) on a 15g tall. It was a low light planted tank with mostly driftwood with Anubias. I kept the bio-wheel on it. I used Fluval filter foam for the filter media. I didn't want to use the MarineLand filters because of the carbon in them. For ferts, I used Flourish (comp) and F. Excell. It worked OK. By using Excel, you don't need to worry about CO2 being out gassed.

Maybe some of these links will help you.

Here's some links to a 1x36w AHSupply mod to an Eclipse 1:
http://www.plantgeek.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6973&highlight=eclipse

http://www.plantgeek.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3662&highlight=eclipse

http://www.plantgeek.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3490&highlight=eclipse

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/p...-gal-eclipse-1-journal.html?highlight=eclipse

I never tried DIY CO2 with this tank.

Maybe a DIY system will work with high water levels. It would be easy enough to try it.

 

[cbennett]

i have a 32 watt retrofit on my 12 gal Eclipse, been working great for nearly 7 years now. I used to use DIY CO2 using a bubble ladder but frankly, there's no way to avoid algae with all the off-gassing from the filtration system. Whether or not you use the bio-wheel, the filter's up top and the water dropping is going to make your life miserable (and constantly mixing up CO2 yeast solution ain't fun either). Solution? 1mL daily of Excel and bob's yer uncle, you're set!

<---- that's my cat George checking out fish in my densely-planted Eclipse

 

[bsmith]

can i get replacement bulbs for the retrofit kit from ah?

B

 

[Left C]

AHSupply doesn't carry 28w/32w square pin bulbs or kits.

Check out my post about the Current and PFO kits.

 

[LeapingGnome]

as far as a place to run the tubing? i just thought that with the nature of the filter all of the co2 would gass off, there is sooooo much surface movement.

Probably yeah. I've found if you keep it topped off all the way so the water comes out under the surface there is a lot less. I've also considered building a little "extension" by squeezing some flexible clear tubing down between the two outspouts of the biowheel and making a tight seal - forcing the filtered water to come out at the end of the tube which is down in the tank.

 

[bsmith]

thats a real good idea LN! it would deff cut down on the turbulance.

B

 

[bsmith]

holey cow C, the retro fit kits are expensive, i paid $35 less for my coralife 65 watter. are all of these kits that pricey?

B

 

[cbennett]

I paid about the same amount for mine. Try Hellolights or innovative lighting solutions for bulbs.

 

[bsmith]

so here is what i have found so far.

http://www.truvuaquariums.com/dc01611.html
i dont think it comes with a bulb though?

http://www.coralreefsupply.com/index.php?aquarium=lighting_cu_eclipse
again no real bulb info.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smartpaq-32w-15...emZ280080586170QQcmdZViewItem#ShippingPayment
would need to replace the actinic bulb.

waddaya think?

B

 

[bsmith]

cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Track=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us
will have to replace the bulbs.

B

 

[Left C]

I wouldn't spend the $ on it. Just use it for it's intended purpose.

 

[bsmith]

so you think i should just keep it the way it is?

B