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The Requirements are
1. High Ph
2. well 1 is the priority

other factors that have to be considered are
1. Lower light the better
2. anything that can use liquid ferts is better than fert soil. plants that can use root tabs will be taken into consideration
3. lower to the ground the better. good mosses and foreground plants are prefered.
3a. Java moss is not doing well in my tank for some reason, but x-mas moss is for some reason

i have
Java Fern
Filipino
narrow leaf
windlov
i have anubias
barteri
nana
petite
nana "gold"
argh whats that skinny one...the name escapes me
and i have mosses
chrismas and java

tank is 20gallon long i think 18" high
ph is 8.5
plain old city water that they get from underground
lighting is 20" 24 watt Coralife Nutri Grow bulb, 2 9watt PC 10K and 65K bulbs i think...i forgot what i put in them
temp hovers around 78 to 80 Fahrenheit
um i think i covered everything...oh yea i have 18 1W white leds over the tank at night for the "moon light" effect i get those cool "glitter" lines

if you need anymore information just ask

thanks guys
 

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Hi C2C,

Some of our GSAS members here in Seattle run hard water alkaline tanks for their African cichlids and they grow Val in them. It takes a little to for the Val to adapt but after it does it seems to grow fine.
 

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thanks for the response

yea i keep hearing that vals do well for some reason
which one would you suggest
 

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Ok so im going to the fish store today. is there something else i should look for other than vals
 

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If you can find them, *Elodea* and Milfoil (besides parrot's feather) do great in high PH. I have various others. *Egeria najas* does great too though, so do potamogetons, onion plants... Well, those are the ones I have success with, and my water is very hard and basic.

**Elodea and egeria are not the same**
 

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I believe Anubias can tolerate alkaline water to some degree as well as Java ferns. Both are rather hardy, easy species to grow.
 

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If you can find them, *Elodea* and Milfoil (besides parrot's feather) do great in high PH. I have various others. *Egeria najas* does great too though, so do potamogetons, onion plants... Well, those are the ones I have success with, and my water is very hard and basic.

**Elodea and egeria are not the same**
i have Elodea
we call it anachris sp? i have some in my pond...im thinking about getting a rid of it all tomorrow
ill prolly keep some for next year and grow it out in the pond next spring
 

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do jungle vals need fertilizing soil or is liquid ferts fine
if soil is needed are root tabs fine
 

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i have Elodea
we call it anachris sp?
Anacharis is the common name for Elodea sp. Egeria is a completely different genus altogether.

do jungle vals need fertilizing soil or is liquid ferts fine
if soil is needed are root tabs fine
Liquid fertilizers supplemented with root tabs should be fine, but of course, if you grow them in a nutrient rich substrate, they will do better.
 
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