[aMichaels]

As a new college student, money is very limiting. Therefor buying a camera to simply post picture of rocks is not exactly a priority. Although i have not looked into the rock at all, I believe the drop in pH could be due to the increased flow of CO2 into the tank. Being a college student working 40 hours a week is also very time constraining making it hard to keep up with such tasks as getting enough sleep much less tracking down the origin and properties of a rock.
Secondly i never recomended nor promoted the product in any way. I simply provided a testimony of what i noticed in my tank. It is up to the reader to determine what to do with what i provided.

 

[Diana]

Instead of posting a picture of the rock, could you do this:
Put one rock in a bucket of water. Test pH, GH and KH at the start. Stir the water daily by hand (probably a stainless steel spoon would be best) and test at the end of a week.
Post the before and after test results.

 

[Tex Gal]

Hoppy, I can't vouch for this product IN THE FISH TANK but I can vouch for it in the garden. It is an amazing product IN THE GARDEN. I have a horticulture friend who owns a landscaping business. She uses it as well.

I'm not sure I would put it in the tank. Why do it? You can get tremendous growth with regular dry ferts and CO2 and proper lighting with less cost. Super Thrive is very expensive but also very concentrated. Even if it wouldn't hurt animals finding the right dosage would be hit or miss.

 

[theredben]

This thread is so full of hearsay, and misinformation, that it makes my head hurt.

 

[mistergreen]

it's just compost. nothing to get excited over. sure, it'll grow plants. It might contain ammonium, that's what I would be hesitant of.

 

[plantbrain]

Plant hormones where the rage in 1960's-1970s, they have lost favor recently however. The product when use at the right time for flowering and fruit setting can help, they add hormones etc to many crops to plump the fruit out before harvest, induce root cuttings etc.

The product has been used by hobbyists for at least 15 years, but no one has reported improved growth etc. Hormones are not this "miracle" control for growth in plants, plants still need the basic building blocks and time to allocate resources to produce this increased growth caused by the hormones.

Also, internal hormones produced by the plant naturally are fine, adding externally amplifies has not worked out and become quite the miracle that some thought it might way back 40-50 years ago clearly...........

It's cheap and many have added it without any significant result.
It did induce more flowering in Crypt species being grown emergently however.

That's about all.

Regards,
Tom Barr

 

[metageologist]

Plant hormones where the rage in 1960's-1970s, they have lost favor recently however. The product when use at the right time for flowering and fruit setting can help, they add hormones etc to many crops to plump the fruit out before harvest, induce root cuttings etc.

The product has been used by hobbyists for at least 15 years, but no one has reported improved growth etc. Hormones are not this "miracle" control for growth in plants, plants still need the basic building blocks and time to allocate resources to produce this increased growth caused by the hormones.

Also, internal hormones produced by the plant naturally are fine, adding externally amplifies has not worked out and become quite the miracle that some thought it might way back 40-50 years ago clearly...........

It's cheap and many have added it without any significant result.
It did induce more flowering in Crypt species being grown emergently however.

That's about all.

Regards,
Tom Barr

the nice concise answer i was looking for.

 

[StillLearning]

Hoppy, I can't vouch for this product IN THE FISH TANK but I can vouch for it in the garden. It is an amazing product IN THE GARDEN. I have a horticulture friend who owns a landscaping business. She uses it as well.

I use it in the garden as well and noticed a huge improvement. We used it on two plants in high school and the one plant that used it was almost double the size of the one that didnt use it. I dont think I would ever put it in my tank though.

 

[aMichaels]

I believe I should clariify as to what occured. Most of the plants were not very established plants as most were taken as cutting from another tank or were purchased at LFS that has less than quality plants. What tom barr said is true. I saw the remarkably fast establishment, new leaves, and a large root system but this slowed after establishment.

This is because hormones have been drained and cut off from the plant and the hormones in superthrive replenish these. I believe the mixed emotions towards the product may be because that in quality soil, a surpluss of these hormones are in the soil naturally. Therefor, adding more hormones to the soil is essentially worthless. But in poor quality soils, these hormones are limited, so when they are added to the soil with normal ferts, the result is positive.

As for the reason i tried this, i couldnt tell you. I didnt plan on consistantly using the product in the tank. The plan was to establish plants but they have already taken very well. Just an experiemnt really.

I do not recomend this however. I saw positive results in the short inquisition and no harm to fish but this may not always be the case. Though the experiemnt was controlled, measurement devices were inadiquit to document very accurate data, results were not always documented immediatly, intervals were inconsistant, ect. And there are too many variables for me to track in order to produce written results that are reliable.

 

[theredben]

Just to clarify, hormones do not reside in soil, no matter how healthy. Also, the new plants produced by offseting or cuttings are not short on hormones. Plants do not have glands like animals. They produce all the various hormones in varying degrees througout the whole plant.

 

[milinko3000]

It has been almost 2 weeks since this thread started, and a bit less since interest in the "special rocks" was expressed. No photos yet? Sorry, but this isn't credible. If you want more information about "Superthrive" see: http://www.superthrive.com/page10.html Now, does that look like something with some value? People have every right to put anything they wish into their aquarium, but to promote something like this, with nothing at all to back up the claims, just isn't a good thing to do. And, this is by someone with only 26 posts in TPT? Who wants to buy a nice bridge in Brooklyn?

Superthrive has been around and used by farmers and gardeners for decades 😅😬. The internet is full of information on it and it’s fast, noticeable results easily speak for themselves. Don’t knock something just because you don’t know anything about it. In fact, you really shouldn’t form an opinion and share it publicly, shaming anything, without a little knowledge on the subject. You do have Google in your hand rn after all 😬. SUPERthrive