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Hi, I just saw 2 TINY little white worms just above the substrate on the glass in my 10 gallon planted shrimp tank, they were so small I could barely see them. They seemed to "crawl" back down the glass and disappeared into the substrate. I've been searching online & I can't find anything that looks exactly like them. I've been doing small frequent water changes to lower my KH/GH levels, so I don't think my tank is unclean & I'm running 2 sponge filters (one with Matrix in it). I added a plant a couple of weeks ago that I hadn't dipped in anything to kill off bad guys (just rinsed it off) & there were some ghost shrimp in there up until a week ago (along with the RCS, bamboo & Amano shrimp who have been in there). I don't think I have overfed & I try to keep food in their dish. I have a real phobia of worms & would like to make sure to get rid of these, what can I do?
I should also add that I've added Stability over the past few days when I put the Matrix in because I have been having high Nitrate levels (40 to 80). Ammonia & Nitrites both 0. Thanks.
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They are most likely detritus worms, and I hate to tell you, their eggs come in your water. They are actually beneficial in the same way earthworms are good for your garden ;)

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They are most likely detritus worms, and I hate to tell you, their eggs come in your water. They are actually beneficial in the same way earthworms are good for your garden ;)

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If it was something in my tap water I wouldn't they have shown up in the 40 gallon tank that I've had for 4+yrs?
Yep, I'm sick and tired of detritus worms and copepods in my gallon shrimp tank. Hence I'm going to 10g and adding a few nano fish.

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Could be flatworms. Harmless as well. Could have easily come in on a plant.


Fish are likely to eat them as soon as they see them.
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If you dump a bit of water from your filter into a glass bottle, you will have an army of them in no time.
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Ok, so upon further inspection (sitting & staring at my substrate, lol): I see some microscopic dots that are at the bottom of the tank mostly around the moss balls & they seem to hop like fleas would. They are much smaller than the worms I saw. The worms were short, fat approx 2mm long, & white. They weren't swimming, they were moving like a snail would on the glass. Does any of this sound harmful? It's frustrating, I finally got the water parameters about where I want them by mixing RO water with my tap & now this. I started fussing with the water because I was losing RCS on a regular basis, but the Amanos & Bamboo Shrimp are fine. Do either of these little creatures sound like something that could harm RCS? Also, I have no fish in this tank, it's shrimp only, should I add a fish or 2 to help clean this up? It's only a 10 gallon, so what would you guys suggest? Thanks so much for the replies!
You should start feeding less/less often.
Worms sound like flat worms. As long as they don't "grow up" to be planaria, you are fine. (aka they stay small)


The small things hopping around could be copepods, or something else.

What is that bug in my Aquarium? .:. Various small creatures that can inhabit a Freshwater Invertebrate Aquarium


As long as you have no planaria or hydra (or seed shrimp?), you don't *need* to do anything other than maybe feeding less food and upping the water changes. If you want, you can add guppy fry for a short while... they'll eat tiny things, including potentially baby shrimp. Once the aquarium appears pretty clean, remove them. It is possible though for the fish to miss eating all the extra critters though....


Here is a picture of a flatworm
http://i.imgur.com/UKePbu3.jpg


A couple different pictures of planaria (they can range in color and shape - somewhat)
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/members/57106-albums10668-picture45329.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_puTVILFyI...Aik/SV1NtwxJT1Q/s320/planaria-composite-2.jpg
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I see some microscopic dots that are at the bottom of the tank mostly around the moss balls & they seem to hop like fleas would. They are much smaller than the worms I saw. The worms were short, fat approx 2mm long, & white.
Same problems as me. They're not harmful, but unsightly.

The recommendation is always feed less... BUT

I get copepods and worms in glass vases that have plants and have never fed anything since the vase are plant only.

Since these bugs are inevitable... get some shrimp friendly fish that'll eat em if you don't like the look of em.
If you're using ECO-complete for a substrate,those are "enhanced root symbionts" ,otherwise known as detritus worms.
There really aren't any "shrimp friendly" fish that'll eat aquarium bugs but not shrimp.... they might leave adult shrimp alone, but baby shrimp would be fair game.


I agree though, it's possible to get a population boom of "pests" without feeding.
If it was something in my tap water I wouldn't they have shown up in the 40 gallon tank that I've had for 4+yrs?
If it glides like a snail, @Zoidburg is right that it is most likely a flatworm (most are not bad). Hard to say if you have copepods or something else since you say it kind of jumps around while most copepods I have kind of putter around like a Jetson's car.

In your 40 gallon, unless you only use RO water, you almost certainly have detritus worms. Fish eat them quite readily, and they usually stay buried in your substrate unless there is a lack of food. They are also don't tend to leave substrate until lights are off or at their lowest.

To be completely honest, all of these are very beneficial for your aquarium. When I started out, I was mad the first time I got snails from plants. Then I saw them decimate hair algae among other things, and they grew on me a bit. Now I have copepods (seed shrimp), 3 types of snails, limpets, tiny flatworms, and tons of detritus worms. I haven't vaccuumed​ my sand in over a year, and every time I pull plants, there is hardly anything that floats into the water column as a result.

If you really have to kill it all, get No Planaria or a Planaria Zero. These will kill snails and worms but will not harm fish or shrimp. Just make sure to watch for ammonia spikes due to all the dead snails/worms. You'll also have to stir up the substrate during dosing time to get them all. Just know that the detritus worms whose eggs come in through water will most likely be back ;)
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I've heard that No Planaria may not harm the flatworms at all... which kind of defeats the purpose of using it in some aquariums... lol


Pretty much hit or miss!
The More Worms, The More Waste

I've heard that No Planaria may not harm the flatworms at all... which kind of defeats the purpose of using it in some aquariums... lol


Pretty much hit or miss!
I just kept the flatworms in my tank, they don't bother me since they art just part of the biodiversity. also the little aphid like things I also have. and tubifex worms, I got it all baby! lol, I wouldn't try to kill them necessarily just lower your food, the more worms means the more waste.
I just kept the flatworms in my tank, they don't bother me since they art just part of the biodiversity. also the little aphid like things I also have. and tubifex worms, I got it all baby! lol, I wouldn't try to kill them necessarily just lower your food, the more worms means the more waste.



Can it be transferred to humans???


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Can it be transferred to humans???


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sure just eat them
*dead serious face*
*bruh*
sure just eat them
*dead serious face*
*bruh*




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I was able to get some REALLY zoomed in pictures of what's in my tank. I just want to make sure it's not planaria or anything else that could be harmful. What do you guys think?



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