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Hi Guys!
My name Mit and Im from West London. Im hoping that you guys on here will be able to give moi a helping hand understand planting in tanks and what item are the best to use.

Well, Im got two new 35L Arcadia Arc Tanks.Its L40cmXW22cmXH33cm open top glass tank. Very Sleek! Kinda like a Bigger Version of The Aqua-Qubes PFK gaveaway!I has a 11W Lamp too.

http://www.arcadia-uk.info/product.php?pid=68&mid=10&lan=en

I am hoping to creat something like this:


The Middle Tank.


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I know a bit about plant in tanks, but its really only a bit.
I know and understand the how to plant plants, ranging them etc.
But i do need help with is know what Substrate to use. To help you help me, i often rerange plants cause i can never make up my mind and would like to have sand on top on the Substrate. Any idea what Substrate is the Best?
Also need help with getting CO2 in to the tank? Would the Nutrafin CO2 System be ok in my tank? How important is CO2 if i only have a 11w Lamp?
Also it comes with a filter. Dont think is gonna be that good. Any advice on a filter that will be super for the tank??

Sorry For All The Questions!!
Hope you guys can help me!
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First of all, welcome to The Planted Tank :).

The first thing I need to say is that 11w is simply not going to cut it over your tank. Its not only nearly impossible to grow even the most hardy plants in it, but the tanks you showed to try to emulate all have very high watts per gallon. I'd recommend picking up a compact flourescent setup or check out ahsupply.com for retrofit kits you can put in a homemade hood. Try to go for at least 3 watts per gallon (for you that would be about 27-28 watts). Four to six watts would be excellent over it.

For substrate, you have tons of options. Many people like using flourite, but it isn't as asthetically pleasing. I personally used tahitian moon sand in my 56 gallon. Its a nice black sand that doesn't mess up your pH. Personally, I'd just recommend going to your local hardware type store and pick up a big bag of play sand. Its the cheapest option, looks natural, and as long as you keep up on dosing and lighting, the plants do perfectly fine in it.

Filtration-wise, I personally prefer penguin or emporer, but preferences vary person to person. The penguin filters are the ones I've been using, an they seem to run very strong, don't get clogged often, and are a pretty quiet filter.

As for the co2, I don't think its even worth it if you're keeping the lighting you have. Plants basically just won't survive in my opinion, even with the addition of co2. I haven't personally heard of the Nutrafin co2 system, but if its recommended by someone, I say go for it if you decide to bump up your wattage.

Also, if you plan on following the Amano way of design (it seems you do :p ), I'd recommend finding really nice rocks somewhere. Make sure they won't mess up your pH first however. Your rocks will be one of the main things people notice when looking at your tank, so if you can't find a nice one in nature, don't worry about spending good money to make sure you get the right ones. It'll end up being worth it in the long run.

Hope that helps :).
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start here:

www.rexgrigg.com
OK, well, you have about 8 US gallons...using a trusty calculator, we see you'll need about 60 watts to hit Amano's average lighting levels.

Your tank is 16" long. That limits lighting options a bit. Unless you go for MH, the only esthetic options are ~36 watts I believe (2x18W) IF you want to hit Amano's levels of lighting.

IMO, if you can wait for the growth, 36 watts will be sufficient over your tank. Coralife and Current USA have 16" fixtures that are 2x18W. Google for them.

Now for substrate...use ADA AquaSoil if you want a tank that looks like the last few pictures. For other types of ADA sand (ie: white color that's in the first tank) check out http://www.adgshop.com for some different kinds. You might want to find a distributor in London or nearby to save on shipping though.

At this level of lighting and the size of your tank, I think a DIY CO2 system would be sufficient.

As for a filter, you can see if there's a ZooMed 501 or Tom's Rapid Mini Canister there. If you're going for heavily planted, they might not be enough flow though. Just depends on what you want. In the UK, it might be called the Eden 501 filter. I'm not sure.

And as for hardscape, check out the link I provided...they have rocks and/or wood for you. Just send them a note and tell them what you're looking for (or find a local distributor) and they'll help try to pick things you want. :)

HTH.
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I See.

So if was to get a Good Substrate, top it up with a layer of sand and plant it up real nice.

Get myself a Good Filter (any more ideas?) and a Nutrafin CO2 System my plants wound not grow cause i have a 11W Lamp??


I wanna go for the above looks but on the low-tech route as i am only starting out. So plant that will giving my that kinda look, but fast easying growing plants. Hardy Ones.

Cheers So Far!

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your in london right?, get the eden 501 from www.aquaessentials.co.uk brilliant quality filter and if i did my maths right should be entirely suitable for your tank
www.plantsalive.co.uk
has a good selection of plants and some helpful pointers on whats needed
I See.

So if was to get a Good Substrate, top it up with a layer of sand and plant it up real nice.

Get myself a Good Filter (any more ideas?) and a Nutrafin CO2 System my plants wound not grow cause i have a 11W Lamp??


I wanna go for the above looks but on the low-tech route as i am only starting out. So plant that will giving my that kinda look, but fast easying growing plants. Hardy Ones.

Cheers So Far!

m
xx
Just a tip. Low tech isn't always low maintenance. Actually you may save money on plants by going for a little bit more and buying a nicer light. You won't have to shop so hard to get very low light plants and you won't have to replace the plants.

If you're bent on going for low light plants though, anubias are very hard to kill, even in very low light, in my experience. Pond plants such as camboba and anacharis are also fairly good in low light, as they're used to being in the bottom of a pond. Its a good idea to get fast growers like those two anyway because they grow so fast that algae has a harder time getting a hold on your tank. Make sure you get liquid ferts to make up for your lack of light too :).
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