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About 3-4 weeks ago I swapped my flora max to Amazonia. Before this I had the Buce for aprox 3 weeks. It was doing great had new leaves etc. btw it's tied to a stone.

Recently within the last few days I noticed the Buce has melted leaves and half the rhizome melted away, there are like three green leaves left on it.

Specs 55g co2 5-7 bps
Pps pro dosing
Ph6.4
Dual t5no 6700k bulbs
 

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Doesn't sound promising. Can you post close up photos of the plant?

Can you do an ammonia test?
 

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I can do that tomorrow for you.

The ammonia is at 0 I leeched out 3l of the Ada in 6 buckets before I swapped substrates until the buckets read 0 ammonia.

No it doesn't sound promising at all. I have no idea what kind of Buce it is either I got it from a member on here that was selling a bucket of bucks for 10$ each, when I received it he said it was some type of blue Buce. The leaves were bright green with a. Darker green center vein on it and neon white spots on the leaf
 

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Are those ammonia readings current (from today)? Or from when you set the tank up three weeks ago?
 

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I've been reading alot about buces the last few weeks and the amazonia may have changed your water chemistry, aside from ammonia. From what I read, a drastic change in water elements can cause the melting and med/large water changes may help to stop it. They are prone to melting like crypts from changes in the water.

No experience with it, just from quite a few posts/blogs I read about buces noted that in it.
 

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The ammonia is reading from weekly. I kept all plants rocks filter media and filters from when I had flora max and swapped out the flora max for Amazonia.

I know it changes gh kh ph but other than that how could it change the chemistry?
 

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I've been reading alot about buces the last few weeks and the amazonia may have changed your water chemistry, aside from ammonia. From what I read, a drastic change in water elements can cause the melting and med/large water changes may help to stop it. They are prone to melting like crypts from changes in the water.

No experience with it, just from quite a few posts/blogs I read about buces noted that in it.
Hit the nail on the head here. I think your chemistry changed to rapidly for them. I have had a few melt on me, some worse than others and this is typically right when i get them and it has always been buces i've ordered from CA that melt the most. As long as you have a healthy root left they will bounce back. Do you happen to know what PH, KH, GH was before and after in the tank?
 

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Ph before was 7.0
Gh was around 7-8
Kh was around 1-3

I would have to test the gh and kh as I haven't tested that since I swapped the substrates
 

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That's a pretty big swing, i would say thats what did it. Assuming all other factors stayed the same; light, bulbs, photoperiod, temp etc. Switching from flora to amazonia wouldnt/shouldnt cause too drastic of a swing in your GH KH values. Not quickly anyway, but ph is a different story.


How are your roots looking??
 

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Yeah ph before was around 7 now it's 6.4 within a matter of a day of putting new stuff in. The Buce melted down to the rhizome now. I'm hoping it bounces back because the rhizome still has some green
 

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In my experience, the rhizome will become brown and mushy if the whole thing is dead. As long as it is still solid and showing some green they will come back. I have two pieces of root that are growing new leaves that are less than a half inch of actual rhizome/root that i almost threw away
 
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