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So, I believe I want to raise some cherry shrimp, but I have a few questions. I would like them to breed, but I'm not breeding to make a super high grade shrimp to sell.

I just picked up a Marineland 5.5 gallon (16x8x10 inches) with a glass canopy. So now my questions:

1. I want to do a dark substrate so that the shrimp "pop" potentially even black substrate
2. I want to plant, what plants do you recommend?
3. I plan to use a submersible filter so they can breed. For a 5 gallon, any recommendations?
4. Same for a heater as the filter.
5. Any light recommendations for a tank that small to make plants grow? (No CO2)

Basically, what should I put in there to make it a great place for my shrimp to have a happy thriving life.

Thanks in advance!
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First, I'm no expert.....
The light that came with the tank is probably fine for low light plants. Ferns and mosses would be OK with that; there's lots of info on low light plants here.
I don't know the details on the filter included, but you should have some kind of sponge on the intake to prevent shrimps from getting sucked into the pump and getting mulched into fertilizer.
I am a fan of the Fluval shrimp stratum for a substrate; it buffers your PH and is pretty good for root growth if you get into any stem plants.
Most important thing I would contribute is PATIENCE!
The tank has to be completely cycled before adding any livestock to it. Get your substrate and rocks in there and start your cycle. Add plants and wait until your water conditions are right for whatever species shrimp you are looking to raise. Get a test kit and read about cycling a tank; there's great guides on this site.
Thanks, the tank didn't come with anything other than the tank, I bought a clear glass top myself and that's all it has right now, so no lights filters etc purchased yet. :)

I have a test kit and a 30gallon fish tank running now, just never tried shrimp, so I'll definitely cycle it and know that process, I plan to add a piece of my filter sponge from my other tank in there to help cycle it at the beginning.

Fluval Shrimp Stratum, I've never heard of it, I'll give it a look! Any suggestions on what plants they like and/or are good for the little shrimpers? I'd love them to have lots of great hiding spots.
I just picked up a Marineland 5.5 gallon (16x8x10 inches) with a glass canopy. So now my questions:
For beginners, it's recommended to start with a 10 gallon tank... you'll have more stable water parameters than in a smaller tank.


1. I want to do a dark substrate so that the shrimp "pop" potentially even black substrate
Black Diamond Media Blasting Sand or any black media sand is fine... the Black Diamond costs $8 for a 50lb bag.


2. I want to plant, what plants do you recommend?
I'm not great in regards to plants... I have crypts, hornwort, java moss, flame moss, java ferns, lace ferns (windelov), moss balls, and pieces of some anubias plants that were either not thriving (nor were they dying) or a tiny piece of the rhizome broke off from the main plant. Some people like banana plants, swords, pelia moss, subwassertang moss, etc.


3. I plan to use a submersible filter so they can breed. For a 5 gallon, any recommendations?
Air driven sponge filter. They can breed in tanks with HOB's too, but sponge filter is all you really need with shrimp.


4. Same for a heater as the filter.
Most the heaters for that size tank are geared for betas. That said, the shrimp may do fine in room temp water. Ideal temps are 68-72 degrees, but can handle slightly cooler or warmer temps. (this goes back to stability.... where-in a 10 gallon being recommended)


5. Any light recommendations for a tank that small to make plants grow? (No CO2)
A CFL bulb around 6500k is probably sufficient. It may help to have root tabs and *maybe* fertilizers to help the plants grow. (there are shrimp safe fertilizers out there!) Shrimp don't create a lot of waste, so it's harder for them to provide nutrients for the plants.


Basically, what should I put in there to make it a great place for my shrimp to have a happy thriving life.
Maybe at least one decoration that the shrimp can use to hide in (shrimp caves, driftwood, cholla wood, or?), plus plants (moss is great!), a little algae growth and stable parameters.



Just so you know, it helps to have a GH and KH test kit, preferably liquid test kit. Shrimp require somewhat specific parameters, although Neos are a little more forgivable than some of the others. If the GH is too low or high, they may not be able to molt properly and die. Likewise, a diet too high in protein (and I don't know what the limit is... but they do eat a lot of algae!) can cause deformities.

https://www.discobee.com/blogs/news/17030569-dwarf-shrimp-water-parameters
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Zoidberg, thanks for the reply! I'm definitely not a beginner to tanks, just to shrimp, that being said, I would have loved a 10g or more, I just don't have room, this is sitting on my desk with my work computer. The desk isn't that big!

How does that black diamond do with rooted plants, is it too fine for them to really put down root? Do the shrimp like a sandy substrate over say a small gravel? Should I put something like Flourish in there as well with that sand?

I'm not super familiar with BFL bulbs, I don't want to "overlight" my tank and cause a huge amount of algae (Even though the shrimp may like some of it, they don't want an entire forest of the stuff) What kind of bulb do you recommend and light system to put in? I use LEDs in my other tanks.
Just my 2 cents:

1. The Fluval Shrimp Stratum is nice for a couple of reasons. It helps to buffer water, decent substrate for for plants, somewhat dark color, and with such a small tank it won't be too expensive.
2. Easy plants that grow at slower rates, so you're not having to thin out that 5 gallon every week. Java moss will provide excellent cover for the baby shrimp. Mini java ferns will provide some cover and look nice. Anubias nana petite is an awesome, near bulletproof plant. Plus all of these do well with minimal care.
3. I like the looks of the Azoo Mignon 60 filter. It has a prefilter sponge over the intake and gives you more options if you ever want to add carbon or other media.
4. Try with no heater and monitor temp while tank is cycling. You probably wont need one as long as the room stays around 72. If you do go for one, get something tiny like an Aquatop NH-15w and use a controller like an Inkbird as a safety net.
5. Finnex clip light is nice and small with a decent spectrum. Most other small led lights are just blue/white. Keep in mind that lights give off heat, so something like an incandescent hood right on top the tank will cook it.

hiding spots: java moss, small pieces of driftwood, cholla wood, slate. You can break up slate and make little caves, or lean slate pieces on wood, etc. You'd be looking for small thin pieces of slate, likely the stuff at the bottom of the bin where its sold from.

I'm doing something similar in my office at work and this is the stuff I have it whittled down to for me. Good luck and keep us posted on your project
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Awesome information! Thanks for that. I'd love to see pictures of yours when it comes up too. I'd never heard of Anubias nana petite, that's a pretty great looking plant.
Awesome information! Thanks for that. I'd love to see pictures of yours when it comes up too. I'd never heard of Anubias nana petite, that's a pretty great looking plant.
You're welcome. I'm a tire kicker so it'll be a month or more before I do mine but I plan on journaling it for sure. The nana petite is one of my favorites. I have some pretty old plants that I always cut the largest leaves off trying to bonsai them down. They're like little shrubs with leaves smaller than my thumbnail. Most as mine are attached to African root wood and lace rock. Just remember with any rhizome plant, not to bury the rhizome or it will rot and die. It's about the only rule when it comes to keeping them alive. They'll do well with roots below substrate, rhizome sitting on top. Or attach them to your hard scape with thread or glue.
Zoidberg, thanks for the reply! I'm definitely not a beginner to tanks, just to shrimp, that being said, I would have loved a 10g or more, I just don't have room, this is sitting on my desk with my work computer. The desk isn't that big!
You're new to shrimp, so I would consider you to be a beginner, and still wouldn't recommend anything smaller than a 10 gallon, unless you are fully aware of GH, KH and TDS and learn how to do water changes in a shrimp tank. With fish, you may be fine just pouring the water back in, but with shrimp, it's better to put the water back in via an airline hose, and with such a small tank, probably best to use air valves to drip it back in.

How does that black diamond do with rooted plants, is it too fine for them to really put down root? Do the shrimp like a sandy substrate over say a small gravel? Should I put something like Flourish in there as well with that sand?
My plants seem to be fine in the Black Diamond Media Blasting Sand. Maybe they'd do better in soil or substrate for plants? Maybe they'd do better with root tabs? And regular dosing of fertilizers?

All I can say is that I have at least two varieties of crypts, the larger variety, the biggest plant is about 7" tall, and the smaller variety, they reach up to 3" tall. I got the plants in clusters, and broke them up to provide more cover. They did melt after getting them, but grew back just fine.

I don't have root tabs and only infrequently fertilize and the plants and shrimp seem to do fine. Pretty low tech setup. I did end up removing one of the hornwort plants because it kind of overgrew in the tank where-as all the other hornwort didn't grow quite as fast.

I'm not super familiar with BFL bulbs, I don't want to "overlight" my tank and cause a huge amount of algae (Even though the shrimp may like some of it, they don't want an entire forest of the stuff) What kind of bulb do you recommend and light system to put in? I use LEDs in my other tanks.
If you can find an LED light for your 5 gallon, then I'm sure that'll be fine!

I use T8's and T5's. These are hoods though, except for the T5's which is just an aquarium light but not a hood. I did recently get an LED hood, and the first time I plugged it in, it worked fine, but I didn't leave it plugged in, and it hasn't worked since. It's a used hood though, so I can't return it for a new one. I was planning on using it, to see how it compares to the other lights, but since it doesn't work... well, kind of hard to compare.
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Zoidberg, thanks for the reply! I'm definitely not a beginner to tanks, just to shrimp, that being said, I would have loved a 10g or more, I just don't have room, this is sitting on my desk with my work computer. The desk isn't that big!
You're new to shrimp, so I would consider you to be a beginner, and still wouldn't recommend anything smaller than a 10 gallon, unless you are fully aware of GH, KH and TDS and learn how to do water changes in a shrimp tank. With fish, you may be fine just pouring the water back in, but with shrimp, it's better to put the water back in via an airline hose, and with such a small tank, probably best to use air valves to drip it back in.
Curious on this one. I have a Spec V with Tangerine Tigers (my first shrimp attempt), and I just pump my tap back in. I have a low TDS and low KH. Never had issues with using my python for water changes. Why drip? Just the side of his tank? Mine is roughly the same volume, but the python is fine.

I'm doing a new shrimp only 10 gallon soon, it's cycling now. Plan to go with something more difficult and was curious if the drip you mentioned was due to parameters or just the size of his tank. For this 10g, since I'll be using RO water remineralized to match the tank I planned to just use a small rio pump to add back.
It's the difference in parameters. If what's going in is the same as whats coming out, it's not a big deal, but if you are dosing the tank with anything and/or feeding a lot and/or have a lot of shrimp that produce waste, this can cause a change in the TDS, and potentially even the GH and/or KH.

If what's going in is not the same as what came out, then there could be a TDS shock and it could potentially kill the shrimp.




I've actually heard people have better luck with Tigers than they do Cherries, and Tigers are supposedly a tad harder to keep than Cherries. I haven't kept Tigers yet, so no personal experience.
It's the difference in parameters. If what's going in is the same as whats coming out, it's not a big deal, but if you are dosing the tank with anything and/or feeding a lot and/or have a lot of shrimp that produce waste, this can cause a change in the TDS, and potentially even the GH and/or KH.

If what's going in is not the same as what came out, then there could be a TDS shock and it could potentially kill the shrimp.




I've actually heard people have better luck with Tigers than they do Cherries, and Tigers are supposedly a tad harder to keep than Cherries. I haven't kept Tigers yet, so no personal experience.
Cool, thanks for clarifying. Since I'm new I wasn't sure. Since I'll be adding the same water parameters I'll be good then.

Yeah, my friend told me tigers were hard, but gave me 6 to start. They breed like crazy in my water with nothing special being done. I have about 40 now, various types. Yellow backs, I see a red tiger or two, some tangerines.
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I havent read all the commentary (sorry!) but it looks like you've got some good plant/filter suggestions.

My one concern would be - make sure the tank is completely cycled before you add shrimp! A tank size that small, the fluctations in water quality in an uncycled or even partially cycled tank could spell the end for your little guys.

I'd get the plants/substrate and let everything settle in for a month before adding shrimp. that way you know they will flourish and you've worked out any algae issues/etc before they go in. =) Good luck, shrimp are great!
I plan to let my filter spend some time in my existing fish tank to build some bacteria, and let plants grow in the shrimp tank during that time, then place the filter in and let it ride for a while. Once it cycles, and my levels are all proper, then shrimp.

What do you guys think about Flourite Black for the substrate? Do you think that would work well for Cherry Red Shrimp? It's something I can easily get local and it would look nice in the tank I believe.

Any recommendations for a carpet plant for that small of a tank? I was thinking Marsilea Minuta for the carpet, a smallish piece of driftwood and for a 5g, that will probably fill it up.
Alot of people use Java moss or any kind of moss for shrimps. There is honestly alot of variety of plants you may use but I prefer Guppy grass which which is really low maintenance. Hope that helped :)
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