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Hello everyone!

I have been searching everywhere but have been unable to find out what is wrong with my fish, I have a common feeder goldfish, she is about 5-6 inches long about a year or two old. I left for a minor vacation of 3 days and had some one feed her. Upon my return, her left nostril was all white as if she had a fungus. I was unsure so I did not medicate, and i haven't yet in fear of giving her the wrong medication

*note* within those days her tank (10 gal. rectangular tank with a lid. only her in there alone) was quite filthy, she seemed to be acting fine, the filter needed to be replaced badly from algae build-up. I did that and gave her a 30% water change (water dechlorinated)

the white spot never grew and hadn't fro a while (been going for about 1-2 wks.) a few things I have noticed:

some parts of it came detached like loose skin
there were blood spots, very tiny dots, in the white bit
this morning I noticed that it had grown a tiny bit and looks somewhat like a crater

please keep in mind this is about 1/2 the size of your pinkie nail so its not engulfing her face.

she rubs her nose on the side of the tank quite often and sometimes the rocks
i got her from my boyfriend, he had her, another goldfish a bit bigger, and 2 shabunkins in a 29 gal. tank, he had to remove her because the other goldfish was constantly knocking her about- trying to get her to release an egg but it was beginning to worry us because she seemed distressed. about a week or two after being in her new home she releases several eggs.

I think that she might be lonely she seems to like her reflection in the glass.

she's acting a tad lethargic but i don't know if its from the spot or what. I am working on getting her a larger tank and possibly another fish friend once everyone thing is alright.

while by boyfriend kept her neither she nor any of the other fishes had any bouts with any diseases. only one occasion of fungus but that was a year ago.

thanks, Saygan
 

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That tank's much too small, so get that new tank ASAP. If you replace the filter you might want to watch for bacteria bloom because you took out a lot of the nitrifying bacteria. The fish might be lethargic because of low O2 levels. I don't know what the white spot is, post a picture.
 

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pictures and a video of goldfish Treacle

i am moving to a new house this month so I am holding out on moving her into a new tank just yet- too stressful for the both of us. her mouth is not deformed at all- its right between her left nostril and mouth, I am pretty sure its just a cut that isn't able to heal but again I am not sure, and if I am right I'm not sure what to do about it. here are some pictures, and a movie (my brother was making lunch in the background so its a tad loud) I could not get a great picture cos she was quite active today. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p129/queensaygan/IMG_0070.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>





 

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You know, it sounds just like a scab that is healing normally. Ever gone to the beach with a scab? It turns white, especially around the edges. The tiny red dots would be the capillaries.

Also, what temp is the tank? Goldfish prefer cooler waters 70F or less.

And goldfish need 5g of water per inch of fish. They produce more waste per inch because they are a "fat bodied" fish. They are not "thin bodied" like a danio.
 

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thats what i thought but we weren't sure and I was terrified that she might have something that needed immediate attention. The temp is a tad above 70 think 72. I plan on buying at least a 29gal. tank but hopefully a 55 but its hard to find other fish that are compatible with goldfish. so far the only ones i know are the common giant plecos and other goldfish but i know that you have to be careful cos some of the fantails prefer higher temperature waters that common feeder goldfish. suggestions welcomed.
 

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The goldfish should be fine at 72F.

I don't know what you mean about "compatible" with a goldfish. Goldfish are not aggressive, they just produce lots of waste. So most anything too big to fit in its mouth should be ok. That would be platies, mollies, swordtails, and such.
 

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You might want to visit http://www.goldfishparadise.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php for more specific goldfish info. I agree that he's probably fine and keeping clean water should be good enough. Common giant plecos aren't really compatible with goldfish because many plecos will suck on goldfish. Fantails and other breeds of goldfish are all pretty compatible if there is space and the stronger swimmers (like commons) don't shove around the weaker fish while mating or trying to get food.
 

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i think my experience with goldfish is a little different. so far i've got roughly 15 - 20 goldfish (common 29 cent variety) in a 55g tank at home. each is about 1.5 - 2 inches long. also in that tank are three 2" giant danios, one 2.5" bala shark, one 5" ropefish, and one 8" pleco (common/sailfin). water is heated to about 76º. i TRY to do a 10-15g WC weekly but it usually ends up more like every 2-ish weeks. all fish are happy and co-exists with NO problems. water tests just fine and everything.
 

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ok, I just heard that a common goldfish needs about 10gal.of water per fish because they can grow to a good size. I also read that they release a lot of ammonia which is toxic to other fish so I have never combined them with anything else. I have had a common giant pleco in with my goldfish before (they were about 1.5-2 inches long and the plecos were only 2-2.5 inches long) and i never had a problem with them on the fish, I think that usually if there is enough algae and such they stay away from the fish, my sister had 2 giant plecos (each about a foot long) in her 40gal tank with 3 cichlids and they never had any problems (beside a too small tank). Just as long as you steer clear from the more aggressive types like the chinese dragon plecos *think thats what they are*

Thanks ovenmit, I have yet to find anything on the net or otherwise that says anythign else could live with goldfish. Nice to know that there are some. Also I have had goldfish doing fine in water that was 80 degrees- i tried to bring the temp down but it always went back up but they never acted as if it was a problem so i left it. 76 isn't to bad.

oh and thanks Mori- good site
 

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I've kept jumbo plecos with my goldfish too. They were about 20" when I moved and had to rehome them (too prickly to bag up and take with me). But so many people do have trouble with plecos turning bad that they do need a warning label. Just keep an eye on them, feed them, and if they do go bad, be prepared to send them off. Goldfish can live with anything that won't pick on them and that can live in the same water conditions and that won't get eaten by curious goldfish. (Apple snails are the safest bet.) But you need to have room for all the critters, and that's where people get into trouble.

I'm sure your goldie will be fine until you move and get a bigger tank. She doesn't look cramped yet! I suggest going with your instincts in picking out a new tank and not ovenmitt's. After all, if not stunted by awful conditions, after less than a year of growth, you wouldn't be able to physically STACK 15-20 common goldfish into a 55 gallon tank. They're big animals!
 

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A 55 gallon tank is far too small for all the fish you described. Feeder goldfish can potentially get huge, and 15-20 of them would be a lot of inches. The pleco will also get too big, and the bala shark is a schooling fish that should be in a bigger tank with other balas.
 

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that Bala shark will also grow to 12- 18 inches in a few years you need to get it into a tank by itself with at least 3 other balas ideally 5 but you'd need a bigger tank than that 55 gal.


UPDATE:

Treacle's scar/cut looks good- it has finally closed up and looks as if its healing wonderfully. Thanks for your help!
 
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