What temps do you keep your rams at? This breeder I am talking to says they need 82-84f to be healthy. Have you found this to be true? I'm wondering if 80F is fine since I'd like other fish in the tank as well.
Hi jcmv4792,What temps do you keep your rams at? This breeder I am talking to says they need 82-84f to be healthy. Have you found this to be true? I'm wondering if 80F is fine since I'd like other fish in the tank as well.
Hi jcmv4792,Thanks Seattle. What are the parameters for that tank? I've been told by other ram keepers that their rams are happy in the upper 70's, but others tell me that they need the lower 80's for proper immune system function. Too much conflicting info!
Did your rams breed for you at those temps?
Ohh I didn't know they had to be conditioned. How do you do that?Hi jcmv4792,
Here in Seattle we have very soft water. In addition I use Safe-T-Sorb #7941 substrate which is a calcined montmorillonite clay that further reduces the dKH/PH and dGH so my water parameters are pretty low......my PH runs about 6.2, my carbonate hardness (dKH) is typically 2.0, and my general hardness (dGH) is about 4.0 - 5.0.
Although they occasionally do a 'mating dance' I haven't attempted to breed them yet since they are just a little over a year old. I haven't even conditioned for breeding, they get mostly dry flake food and some frozen bloodworms.
Thanks for the replies. lksdrinker that's actually the breeder I was talking about lol. Luckily he breeds his rams in similar parameters as mine(in alkalinity).Warmer is better for rams. 80 would be the absolute minimum I'd suggest. 82-84 typically leads to better results. If you're not already, I'd suggest reaching out to yunite at [YUNITE] SDRAMS | Your No.1 Source of Quality German Blue Rams
Thanks for the reply. Not sure I just found out about him through a friend. How long have the rams lived in there? No problems in the 79f temps?I keep my GBR's at about 79 degrees, but the temperature fluctuates since I don't keep a heater in there. Occasionally a degree or so cooler, and occasionally warmer, especially during the day when my AC is off. I also have pretty hard tap water living in Florida.
In other news, have Yunite's prices gone up? I swear when I was looking last year they were averaging about $10 a fish. Maybe it wasn't free shipping back then so the prices have been increased to compensate?
Thanks for the input Road. I know naturally they prefer the soft and acidic waters but this particular breeder has been breeding them in this type of water for 10 years so they should thrive.Will not do well in hard alkaline water if you are speaking of the German blue ram's. IMHO
Kept them for three or four year's with Discus at 84 degree's F
Had to cut my hard tap water with R/O water at 50/50 % for the ram's but the domestic Discus did well with my 12 dgh and pH of 7.6 from the tap which over time in the tank,drifted lower to around pH 7.4
Found the ram's to be more sensitive to water parameter's than the domestic Discus, and thouh both species spawned,,the egg's never stayed viable.
Wow your rummynose tetras do well with that hard water? How long have kept the rummynoses in there? Where did you get them?Just thought I'd chime in and say that my ram is doing splendidly @78 degrees ph 7.8 and gh around 10, and as to tank mates mine are with cardinal tetras, white clouds (hence the cooler temperature, had a couple sneak in in an order), otos, cherry shrimp, rummy nose tetras and a male dwarf gourami. Only compatibility issues is occasionally the ram and gourami will nip at each other, but nothing serious, and occasionally I will catch the ram trying to eat a baby shrimp (though that is true of all the species and given enough hiding spaces isn't an issue)
A year and a half maybe 2 years on a couple of them, every now and then I'll lose one to jumping. I got them at my LFS, all i know is they were tank bred rather than wild caught, where they came from is anyones guessWow your rummynose tetras do well with that hard water? How long have kept the rummynoses in there? Where did you get them?