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Fuzz Algae help

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I'm having trouble with fuzz algae.

Tank stats:

approx 7 weeks old.
210G (24 inches tall)
4x t5HO 7.5 hrs/day, raised 7 inches off top of tank. Algae growing in both heavily lighted and shaded areas.
EI Ferts - 2 teaspoon KNO3, 1/2 teaspoon KHPO4, 1/2 teaspoon CSM+B 3/wk each)
Pressurized Co2 - 4DKH drop checker shows green all over the tank, yellow by co2 output.
Flourite black sand substrate

Current algae eating crew: 8 Ottos

Heres a picture, as you can see this plant is in a wide open flow area so its getting plenty of co2 and water movement:




The algae is easily removed from leaves by rubbing them but its impractical on such a large scale. its only affecting my fine leaved plants.

What are my options for dealing with this?

fish: I have a SAE in another tank who will eat this for sure, along with all my moss and my dreams of moss covered driftwood. Will Mollys work on this? Will Roseline barbs eat it?

Fertilization: I have no idea? The plants are growing fine, that plant in the pic grows about 3-4 inches/week even though its algae covered.

CO2: Its already way high and theres 2x 1600gph pumps pushing it around + the 2 filters.

Shrimp: Catfish food

Lighting: the fuzz is growing in both shade and bright light on the fine leaved plants. I could raise the light a few more inches. Dropping the photoperiod below 7.5 hrs seems unlikely to be effective?

I'm really frustrated as aside from this stuff the tank is doing stellar.
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Two options in my book.

1. Get a brigade of young SAEs, Red Cherry Shrimp, and/or Amano Shrimp and reduce your feeding. Allow them to eat the majority of the algae.

2. Dose Excel or Metricide 14 and let the algae become pink and fall off.

After ridding yourself of the symptoms, figure out your problem. Your dosing seems about appropriate for EI methods. I would look into reducing your feeding, determining your bio load in the tank and seeing if your biological filtration is up to par. Any ammonia that lingers around will trigger algae growth. Though your test kits might read zero ammonia, ammonia is still released from decaying plant matter, food, and fish crap etc... With EI you dose to provide an unlimited supply of nutrients. The key is keep things in balance while doing so. You are dosing a good amount of KNO3, and if you also have a high bio load, you could potentially be contributing an unbalanced amount of nitrates, allowing algae to feed.

4 T5HOs is a pretty large amount of light for your setup, you could try running less bulbs, or raise the fixture further. Too much light, more often then not, will contribute to algae, that is if you cannot consistently match the light intensity with appropriate ferts and CO2 levels.

Your CO2 concentration should be pretty equal throughout the tank. Sounds like its not. Try increasing flow from one end of the tank to the other.

And finally, keep up your weekly 50% water changes to bring your ppm levels back into check, an overabundance of nutrients from week to week will also give algae the opportunistic advantage.

Just my .02, perhaps other people will chime in with their theories

-Chris
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Your CO2 concentration should be pretty equal throughout the tank. Sounds like its not. Try increasing flow from one end of the tank to the other.
I will make some flow adjustments and clean the filters but the drop checker shows the same good green everywhere except right at the co2 outlet.

I would look into reducing your feeding, determining your bio load in the tank and seeing if your biological filtration is up to par
Bio load is comically low, so much so that people ask me where the fish are, so I think we can rule this out.

The manzanita in the tank is still immature, its only been underwater for ~2.5 months. Could this be a source of problems? There is a lot of it.
Well, this might be a far reach, but in some cases a nutrient deficiency will cause algae to grow. For instance not dosing enough KNO3 can cause algae, while too much can cause it as well.

For my 75 gallon tank i dose:
3/4 tsp. KNO3
1/4 tsp. KH2PO4
1/4 tsp. CSM+B

If I were to compare your dosing amounts relative to mine it appears you are just about on track. perhaps a tiny bit low on the nitrates when considering balance to the other ferts. (plus you have a low fish load)

What light fixture are you running? what bulbs? how good are your reflectors. perhaps going to a 6 hour cycle or raising the fixture further would help.

Is the tank near a window and receiving any sunlight?

What is your water change regiment?
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What light fixture are you running? what bulbs? how good are your reflectors
Catalina 4x t5ho 2x 6500 2x 10k. Pretty good reflectors I think.
Is the tank near a window and receiving any sunlight?
No
What is your water change regiment?
50% water change every Saturday
Your light fixture isn't anything crazy... i have the 3 bulb variant from catalina. I would try 3 bulbs constantly on (if possible) or just run two bulbs for first 3 hours and last 3 hours, and run 4 bulbs for a 2 hour noon burst. This should put you from "too high" PAR to "high" PAR.

Other than that i am out of ideas. Sorry. I truly do believe it's lighting associated. 4xT5HO with good reflectors is a lot of light over most any freshwater planted tank unless they are suspended 12inches + above tank rim in your case.
A high plant mass with good CO2 and a good supply of nutrients along with constantly hassling the algae seems to pay off after a while. Removal by twisting around a toothbrush or similar. Overdosing Flourish Excel can help.
Any updates ? How's the tank going? My 110g 30" tall tank kept giving me trouble so I reduced the light to 2 bulbs T5HO 54watt at 8 hours and it seems to be good. I have the catalina 4 bulb t5ho I use there little legs so its like 4 inches above the tank.
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