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First off, hey all, new guy here! thanks for all of your help-

Here is my 6g work in progress. This is my 3rd tank and I have been in the hobby for 14 months.(FW: Spec V and Edge 6g. SW: IM nano 10g)

This Edge is at work so I am away from the tank for 2-3 days at a time but right next to it for the other 4-5. I have someone feed one of those days for me so no care can be provided for 2 days ;( so far the Fauna seem fine, fat and happy.

I was hit really hard with BBA and some stag, getting over it now, i had to remove a bunch of HC and DHG =(

Tank:
Fluval Edge 6Gallon

Lighting:
I built this extra light out of a edge bottom i ordered and these parts:
Hagen.com:
Fluval Replacement Edge 23L Base

Rapidled.com:
1 x Arctic Alumina Thermal Adhesive
2 x Bulk Wire (Black)
2 x Bulk Wire (White)
2 x CREE XT-E Royal Blue LED
1 x 0-10V Dimmable Nano Driver with Potentiometer
5 x CREE XP-G2 Cool White LED (~6,000K)
Amazon:
Aluminum Heatsink Cooling for 4 x 3W / 12 x 1W LED

I BELIEVE the 5x white LED are 2.3watts each and the Royal blue are 1watt each, if this is true, max wattage is 13.5 (i know its not the best to go off of watts, i don't know the par value soo :p)

Co2:
(will be up and running in 5 days)
Amazon.com
AQUATEK CO2 Regulator Mini
Empire Paintball 24oz CO2 Tank

Rockwork:
Ebay.com
7lbs seiryu stone
Quartz (until I can stop the HOB from tearing up my substrate or find a better way to divert flow)

Substrate:
Fluval Plant and Shrimp Stratum (back and bottom of tank)
Seachem Laboratories Flourite Black Sand on top (cap)

Flora:
Dwarf hair grass - More will be added when it grows out from home aquarium
anubias nana petite - More will be added when it grows out from home aquarium
Temple compacta - Will be removed when I add more of the others.
Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini' - More will be added when it grows out from home aquarium
Hemianthus callitrichoides 'Cuba' - More will be added when it grows out from home aquarium

Fauna:
7x Neon Tetra
1x Otocinclus
2x Corydoras julii
2x horned nerite snail

9x RCS and they wont stop breeding!!!!! (there have now been over 100 shrimp that have been sold out of this tank and still over 100 left.)

Yes i know its over crowded..

Additives:
Seachem Flourish
Seachem Flourish Excel
Seachem Potassium
Seachem Nitrogen (will be added when more plants are in and the Fauna cannot provide enough Nitrate)
Seachem Prime

Filtration:
Stock HOB
Stock Bio media
Stock sponge
Carbon bag
Fluval Clearmax or Purigen
Filter floss

I will continue to work on this tank until it is damn near perfect! I have it on display and everyone who walks through the door of my business sees it. Going through new tank syndrome whilst on display is hard but it also helps me better myself in our hobby and in life! I know once I get through this multi-type algae bloom I will be able to sustain proper equilibrium between lighting, co2 and nutrients-

Tell me what you think? Good bad and ugly works, constructive criticism is best =)

P.S. why are all of my pics showing up upside down and sideways?!?!? grrr >_<
 

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I finally got my Co2 Aquatek mini w/ solenoid (paintball tank) set up. Only problem is keeping a diffuser well hidden, without micro bubbles. So I have the line running into the intake of the AC20 HOB. Maybe chopstick shoved in co2 tubing then into the return on HOB? I was thinking I should diffuse it more before it gets sucked up into the impeller. Is there a better way to do this and keep everything well hidden?

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Sorry I am no co2 expert, I am actually finally going to be upgrading to an aquatek by the end of this summer. However I would agree that most of it will will evaporate off before diffusing into the tank especially since the HOB will have a decent amount of surface agitation. Someone should be able to help you diffuse it more efficiently while hiding it though. Good luck.
 

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I would advise retuning the oto and cory. Both are shoal ing fish that should be kept in groups of 6 MINIMUM. They will be stressed kept alone. For a shoal of otos I'd reccomend a 20g long or larger and only after tank is planted, cycled, and aged for a few months to build up natural micro fauna for them. Also reccomend a minimum 20g+ for the julli cory.
 

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Sorry for the hiatus! Just a Pic update, its growing in nicely. I'm having some trouble with some Staghorne, GSA and BBA. I have come to the conclusion that my lights where way too high trying to get the Dwarf Baby Tears happy, established and pearling. The GDA and GSA is no longer growing on the glass, just my anubias leaves as well as the BBA/stag. Still a bit of work ahead but its lookin good so far! The shrimp are breeding like crazy, I have to take some out every 6-8 weeks as it looks like its infested lol.
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There are now two cories in there and they act like they are going to mate, constantly fluttering with one another in a T shape.
 

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I finally got my Co2 Aquatek mini w/ solenoid (paintball tank) set up. Only problem is keeping a diffuser well hidden, without micro bubbles. So I have the line running into the intake of the AC20 HOB. Maybe chopstick shoved in co2 tubing then into the return on HOB? I was thinking I should diffuse it more before it gets sucked up into the impeller. Is there a better way to do this and keep everything well hidden?

Thanks-
How did putting the CO2 line into the HOB work? Did it get rid of the microbubbles? Did you have to increase your bps after? Did the CO2 have any effect on your filter bacteria?
 

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Sorry for the hiatus! Just a Pic update, its growing in nicely. I'm having some trouble with some Staghorne, GSA and BBA. I have come to the conclusion that my lights where way too high trying to get the Dwarf Baby Tears happy, established and pearling. The GDA and GSA is no longer growing on the glass, just my anubias leaves as well as the BBA/stag. Still a bit of work ahead but its lookin good so far! The shrimp are breeding like crazy, I have to take some out every 6-8 weeks as it looks like its infested lol.
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There are now two cories in there and they act like they are going to mate, constantly fluttering with one another in a T shape.

This is a really nice setup. Good job on the Lighting. It has really filled in! Makes me want to get a Fluval Edge :laugh2:
 

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How did putting the CO2 line into the HOB work? Did it get rid of the microbubbles? Did you have to increase your bps after? Did the CO2 have any effect on your filter bacteria?
So i ended up putting a diffuser riight next to the prefilter foam (fluval's) and the diffused Co2 gets trapped in the foam and then sucked up into the filter. so far i havent seen any issues, no burping or stalling HOB. I guess one could argue that its holding back the full potential the HOB has when it comes to BB growth but i cant tell. The Co2 is running just under 1bps so its not the most efficient method i guess but i dont have any micro bubbles from the Co2, only pearling and happy fish! =)

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This is a really nice setup. Good job on the Lighting. It has really filled in! Makes me want to get a Fluval Edge :laugh2:
I love the tank now that its set up. Getting in the tiny opening for trimming/maintenance is a PITA. Make sure if you do you choose SLOW GROWERS! lol It's such a sleek tank how can you not want one! =)
 

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So i ended up putting a diffuser riight next to the prefilter foam (fluval's) and the diffused Co2 gets trapped in the foam and then sucked up into the filter. so far i havent seen any issues, no burping or stalling HOB. I guess one could argue that its holding back the full potential the HOB has when it comes to BB growth but i cant tell. The Co2 is running just under 1bps so its not the most efficient method i guess but i dont have any micro bubbles from the Co2, only pearling and happy fish! =)
Thanks! I'll have to try that tonight.
 

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Thats interesting where you placed the diffuser. I have mine placed directly under the out flow of the HOB filer to help disperse the CO2 more but the bubbles are everywhere. Do you have a CO2 drop checker? And if you do, at 1bps, what color are you getting.

I might want to move my disperser like you but Im thinking that it might waste a lot of the CO2.

Currently I run at about 1bubble every 3.5sec but I run 24/7. This way I dont have to constantly turn the CO2 off and on everyday. My CO2 system is small (ISTA) and dont have a solnoid. I used to run about 1bubble every 1.75 sec and turn it off at night and back on in the morning. Now at 3.5 sec per bubble 24/7 its been working and im using less CO2 over all
 

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Thats interesting where you placed the diffuser. I have mine placed directly under the out flow of the HOB filer to help disperse the CO2 more but the bubbles are everywhere. Do you have a CO2 drop checker? And if you do, at 1bps, what color are you getting.

I might want to move my disperser like you but Im thinking that it might waste a lot of the CO2.

Currently I run at about 1bubble every 3.5sec but I run 24/7. This way I dont have to constantly turn the CO2 off and on everyday. My CO2 system is small (ISTA) and dont have a solnoid. I used to run about 1bubble every 1.75 sec and turn it off at night and back on in the morning. Now at 3.5 sec per bubble 24/7 its been working and im using less CO2 over all
The fluval prefilter sponge really helps 'lag' the diffused co2 bubbles before they get into the HOB thus creating fewer bubbles. It was like $5 bucks for the sponge on amazon and it really helps pull all the crud out before it gets inside the filter (this is where 90% of my mulm ends up and it gives the shrimp a great place to graze)

I do have a drop checker and it sits at a slight greenish yellow( 70/30 yellow to green) for most of the day and my DBTears and anubias are always throwing off bubbles. I run Co2 from 8:30am-6pm auto on/off via solenoid (lights are on from 8:45am-8:15pm) the paintball tank has ran for about 5-6 months before i had to bust out the second one.

hows your pH in the right as lights turn on? I used to run 24/7 and my pH was horribly low lol, my snails shells couldnt take it. what about your GH/KH?
 

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In honesty I've never checked PH or any other tests ever. All i do is about 40% water change every 10 days, dose Flourish comp (twice a week at half doses), api leaf zone (twice a week at half doses), and Excel every 2 days.

Bump: I do use the pre filter
 

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I somehow have 2 yellow shrimp and I want more!!! Does anyone know how/why this happened? Recessive gene? Genetic defect? I'm thinking about taking the two yellow ones out and adding them with 5 of my best DARK RED RCS and try and recreate more yellows or oddball shrimp. Some of my blood red shrimp have dusty white racing stripes and are almost black looking, can I get those to a black tone via selective breeding?
 

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Your edge is beautiful! I am going to be setting up a 12 gallon edge soon, and I found some useful advice on this thread. Thank you! Did you ever find out about the yellow shrimp variation?
Thank you! The work put into this thread has already paid off if it helped you out. If you have any questions I'd be happy to try and help~

I haven't really found out more shrimp info other than you can isolate them and eventually end up with more and more % yellow (or whatever trait you are isolating) until its a more so dominate trait rather than recessive one.
 
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