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Tank has 0 'ites, 'ates fluctuate with erratic fertilization but never above EI recommended levels, CO2 fluctuates -DIY. Heavy planted and algaed and 3 yrs established. Weekly 50% water changes. Light on the fish food.

Changed out 3 healthy adult angels (Sold). Raised them from dime size. Bought molly and tiger barbs & BNP. Didn't quarantine. I know, I know.

Fish acted like they had ich but no visible spots...flashing, some w/ fins down. Did 14 days w/ temp @ 89F. Cooled tank back down to 75F. Fish seem to still have problems. The barbs are flashing, some with fins down. One of the bullet-proof 3+ yr old RNTs is not with its school and breathing rapidly. Only visible thing on the fishes skin is the Male black molly's color is fading/looking rough, though he's acting healthy. It looks like he might even have hole-in-the-head. Flush time for him? 1 inch BNP has occasional head shakes.
No cory. Barbs not pestering others, just themselves.

What whole tank treatment should I try next that is easy on plants. I have quick cure and aquasol on hand. No space/equipment for quarentine.

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your not going to like this, but your going to have to pull out all your plants and treat the tank or pull the fish and treat in a Q tank. You don't have to use a tank, you can use a large storage bin like those big 50 gallon ones for 10 bucks. Then start treating them for hole in the head, if you treated the whole tank, it would kill all your plants (or atleast melt them). Also Meds have a habit of staining the silicone of the tank. You'll need General Cure. PLEASE DO NOT FLUSH YOUR FISH! you'll put disease of your aquarium fish in the waterways!
 

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-No sea burial for Mr. Molly then.

Not disagreeing with you, but since the whole tank, and the surfaces of everything in it (including plants), and its occupants have probably got a few things wrong, is there anything not too plant-deadly to try 1st. Thanks for your info!
 

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Well, Paraguard by seachem is something I use for a broad spectrum. But, I am not sure It would help your problem. Its a formalin based medicine, I think you'll need general cure. I think you are past the point of a Mild med to treat. Pictures would help diagnose the problem. It could be Columnaris, it could be body fungus, It could be Ick of the gills, Have you turned off the co2? Have you noticed any gasping? Quick cure is going to stain the silicone possibly, and it WILL stain your plants, it also can be hard on scaleless fish. If you choose the Quickcure, I believe this is the one that has copper and you won't EVER be able to have inverts in the tank. It will sink into the silicone and leech. I don't think its plant safe either.
 

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My fish were flashing and I didn't see any spots. It's a planted tank. After treating with prazipro everything has settled down. I think it was flukes. Didn't hurt the plants. Or the shrimp or the fish.
 

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Tried high temp 14 days. No effect. Tried Aquarisol+temp. 14 days. No effect. Lowered temp, did multiple water changes/vacuum...50% 2X, then a couple 90% changes over a couple days. Added General Cure (contains prazi and metro together). Fish better in 24 hrs. Continued treatment per directions. Flashing and rapid breathing gone. Plants did poorly during high heat. I quit doing dry ferts during all the treatments and added O2 during high temp. Plants rebounding now, seemed to start with temp decrease. Bacteria seems to still be working in the tank/filter. Molly seems to be getting blacker. Happy Ending. Sincere thanks for the help.
 

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If you ever see flashing with no ich spots and everything else looks good just treat with prazi. I have had 100% success rate after battling years of frustration. Please pass this along to other frustrated hobbyists. I still don't know what the root cause was but I know prazipro knocked it out. May have been gill flukes, fish lice or some other unknown parasite. Thanks for the update.
 
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