The 2211 I have in my 20L is kind of weak, the 2213 in my 29 fits it pretty well. I have a 4+ series for my 40B but haven't got it up and running yet.
Thanks for the input. That's what I had been thinking that the 2211 would be too weak.The 2211 I have in my 20L is kind of weak, the 2213 in my 29 fits it pretty well. I have a 4+ series for my 40B but haven't got it up and running yet.
Yah thanks, it confirms what I have already been thinking.If in the budget, go larger. I find very few go to smaller tanks and when moving to larger, already having a larger filter fits better. There is no harm done to turn the flow down on canister filters, if it should be a gross problem. It is suggested in some of the Eheim manuals.
For the media bags, I don't know that I would trust the oranges, etc. bags as they are often colored/treated with things that might throw in wild cards that I want to avoid. Possible mildew/ fungus treatment? I don't know, so I avoid it.
I've forgotten which Classic has media trays/baskets and which do not but in my 2217, I found a way to build trays to hold the loose media. I had a supply of small drywall mud buckets that slip fit in the 2217!
I would suggest looking further for loose weave fabric to suit.
Sounds good. The clean up and I guess how drastically different they are from hanging filters is why I've it put it off for so long to upgrade. If you had a DIY tray that I could make to solve my issues it would be great. I work with clay and pottery, would I be able to make something form that and have it work after it was kiln fired?I'm somewhat of a nut when it comes to DIY to avoid spending money if I'm not totally sure of where it's going. So keep that in mind but I like the DIY tray over bags. I tried bags of various sorts and never really liked them. I was never able to find one that was loose enough weave to suit me on feeling they restricted flow. My 2217 has an open area at the bottom where the "barrels" are laid loose. These don't bother me to chase down as I simply dump them into a strainer to clean and then dump the strainer back into the bottom of the can. But the next group of loose media is the bio-balls and those are not easy if I have to pick each piece out and back. I tried bags but the weave was too tight and collected grung on it sooner than I wanted to clean or was too loose and let the balls slip out so that I had to chase them or they went down the drain! Some bags that seemed pretty close were also not good material to last and made a whole different gripe when they split during handling! there is something somewhere but I did not find it before coming across the idea of DIY trays.
To keep from cluttering your post, I will add a new post in the DIY section on my tray. Maybe it fits for some, if you want to watch for it?
Awesome thanks for the post and the pics, its very helpful. I could try with clay, i'm skilled enough but I don't think it would, in the end supports its own weight, plus their is usually shrinkage in the kiln which would not work. I'll take a look at you post and get the materials to make some trays.While the clay might be workable for skilled hands, I always try to keep as much space working as possible. to get strong, might take more space than I would want to give. The craft mesh is a pretty easy deal that I would also try if needed. I've made several boxes and trays of it for keeping fry separate when faced with too many for tanks available.
Cheap to buy, easy to cut and form, then sew together with monofilament fishing line.
Time, space, labor might make me go that way?
It comes in several different mesh sizes at Hobby Lobby, Michael's, etc. for craft projects.
This is a post about my current choice for heaters. Seems to be a different design using ceramic which should make it work better and last longer. Nice solid stainless metal tube, nice controls and readout that I like.
you might give it a try if you find them online. I found what seemed like a really good price in the $15-16 dollar range at the time. I've not looked lately and supply and price are in constant change.
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