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Will support a 75 gallon rimless tank. Width and depth match tank dimensions. Steel is 11 gauge one inch tube. Will put a wood panel on top of steel and between the wood and glass I will layer on some 1/2 inch thick neoprene foam material. The steel frame is level and I will put some spare puzzle mats underneath a rug beneath it all.

The center two struts (back) each have 3 holes drilled with equal spacing. Will be painted but before I put primer on any thoughts on whether front struts are necessary? Either just one in the center or two?

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Will support a 75 gallon rimless tank. Width and depth match tank dimensions. Steel is 11 gauge one inch tube. Will put a wood panel on top of steel and between the wood and glass I will layer on some 1/2 inch thick neoprene foam material. The steel frame is level and I will put some spare puzzle mats underneath a rug beneath it all.

The center two struts (back) each have 3 holes drilled with equal spacing. Will be painted but before I put primer on any thoughts on whether front struts are necessary? Either just one in the center or two?
1 vertical in the center would be plenty in my opinion. Just so the front bar wouldn't bend slightly and potentially crack the tank.
No struts are necessary. The angle iron stands I have for my 75s only have legs on the four corners. 1" angle. I've also got my 90 on an angle iron stand and the metal is only 1/2".
One thing about the commercial designs I like over yours is they don't have the bottom frame. It is higher up so it is used as a shelf. I've found that with a full frame it winds up, after leveling, it's still only supported on the four corners. And that is all it needs.

That stand, like the ones I have bought will last at least 50 years. Many of mine are at least 36 years old and still going strong. Been repainted many times but still look great. I've got one given to me by a customer that was out in the yard for over a year. A light sanding and repaint and it's as good as new.

Nice job overall.

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1 vertical in the center would be plenty in my opinion. Just so the front bar wouldn't bend slightly and potentially crack the tank.
Your standard rimmed tank is mostly supported on the four corners. My 90 and the 75s have a lot of light showing through the 3.5 feet between corners.
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...but before I put primer on any thoughts on whether front struts are necessary? Either just one in the center or two?
I think going without any on a four foot tank would be fine. If you're going for a large opening and want more strength you could add to the corners like this:


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No struts are necessary. The angle iron stands I have for my 75s only have legs on the four corners. 1" angle. I've also got my 90 on an angle iron stand and the metal is only 1/2".
One thing about the commercial designs I like over yours is they don't have the bottom frame. It is higher up so it is used as a shelf. I've found that with a full frame it winds up, after leveling, it's still only supported on the four corners. And that is all it needs.

That stand, like the ones I have bought will last at least 50 years. Many of mine are at least 36 years old and still going strong. Been repainted many times but still look great. I've got one given to me by a customer that was out in the yard for over a year. A light sanding and repaint and it's as good as new.

Nice job overall.

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Your standard rimmed tank is mostly supported on the four corners. My 90 and the 75s have a lot of light showing through the 3.5 feet between corners.
I was thinking of the rimless tank he's using and it needing a very flat base with a neoprene pad underneath it. If there are any air gaps under the tank it can flex and crack. Plastic rimmed tank I wouldn't care about a front center brace either.
I was thinking of the rimless tank he's using and it needing a very flat base with a neoprene pad underneath it. If there are any air gaps under the tank it can flex and crack. Plastic rimmed tank I wouldn't care about a front center brace either.
Well I guess I missed the part about the rimless.

I think with 1" tube he would still be fine. It's the acrylic tanks that need full support on the bottom.

I went searching the net about rimless tanks and full bottom support. Seems as though it is 50/50. If this were MY tank I'd look up the manufacturer and ask them what they want under their tanks. Even the manufacturers seem to be divided.

I've got 22 gallon rimless breeder tanks, same foot print as the 40 but only 10" tall. The farm I got them from had them supported on pipes. He had two pipes running 30' about 1/3 the way in from the front and back and these tanks sat on them. For 30+ years.
11 gauge - whoa! That's a heck of a sturdy chunk of steel. I built my stand for the 50 using 16 gauge 1.5" and I thought that was overkill. :) I think you're going to be fine without the front brace. I added a 3/4" sheet of plywood along with a 1/8" rubber mat to ensure I had a level surfaced for my acrylic tank.

How are you planing on leveling once it's in place? I built feet with a captive nut welded inside to use leveling feet. I found that I needed almost 3/4" of leveling front to back in my older house. Here's where I ended up with mine (pardon the wiring mess):

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Well I guess I missed the part about the rimless.

I think with 1" tube he would still be fine. It's the acrylic tanks that need full support on the bottom.
Will have some kind of panel in between steel and glass. Thinking 3/4 inch plywood right now. Even if it isn't necessary I feel compelled to do it.

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11 gauge - whoa! That's a heck of a sturdy chunk of steel. I built my stand for the 50 using 16 gauge 1.5" and I thought that was overkill. :) I think you're going to be fine without the front brace. I added a 3/4" sheet of plywood along with a 1/8" rubber mat to ensure I had a level surfaced for my acrylic tank.

How are you planing on leveling once it's in place? I built feet with a captive nut welded inside to use leveling feet. I found that I needed almost 3/4" of leveling front to back in my older house. Here's where I ended up with mine (pardon the wiring mess):
Leveling will be a combination. I have spare puzzle mats that will go directly on my hardwood floor and a rug will cover that up. On top of the steel I will put some kind of panel, maybe 3/4 inch plywood. On top of the plywood I have rolls of 1/2 inch thick neoprene foam material to cut. If all that together does not level it out I'll resort to shimming the stand (not the tank).

Nice setup. I like how the equipment is exposed but cleanly organized.

Thanks everyone for the replies. I asked a friend of mine who asked a friend of his (Math professor) and he suggested I shouldn't worry unless I'm putting more than 2500 lbs on it. Assuming the welding is tight of course. Will be moving forward with the stand as is, and I'll learn how to do the physics equations myself next time.

One thing about the commercial designs I like over yours is they don't have the bottom frame. It is higher up so it is used as a shelf.
There will be a shelf in the middle. I have a nice piece of beveled glass from an old coffee table that'll be affixed to the rear center struts. The welder drilled holes on those two struts and made two brackets I'll use to support it along with a canopy that I'll hang lights from.

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