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OK, I pulled the trigger and bought some CRS from Aquabid: AquaBid.com - Your Aquatic Auction Website There is no DOA guarantee which makes me nervous, but I'm pretty sure that the seller is a member here which makes me feel a little better.
I've been reading as much as I can through the CRS threads here, but I'm still very nervous about killing these guys and I have many questions for those of you that are successfuly raising CRS. I currently have MANY (200+) Red Cherry Shrimp in a 5g. Here's the specs from my signature: 5g topless cherry shrimp tank, 36W 6700K, flourite, ZooMed 501, DIY Hagen Co2 & bubble ladder, solenoid & Milwaukee SMS122.
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1. Should I add the CRS to the 5g RCS tank, or is it too small to breed CRS? (I'm planning to sell off almost all of the RCS to LFS)

2. I have a 46g bow that only has one small tetra in it right now, would this be a better choice of tank for breeding CRS? (46g bow topless, 192W 6700/10,000K, Soilmaster Select, Filstar XP2, pressurized Co2, Milwaukee reg & SMS122, AM 1000, Hydor ETH)

3. If I use the 5g, should I add a heater?

4. All of my tanks are topless, do I need a top for CRS?

5. I never miss a 50% WC every sunday, but my water is very hard (15 last test) should I supplement with RO? e.g. 5g of the 20g water change would be RO?

6. My ph starts very high at 8.1 - 8.2 and I bring it down to 6.9 with CO2, if I start adding RO do I need to raise the set-point on my ph controller? If so, to what?

7. I'm currently feeding the RCS Hikari Crab Cuisine, and crushed snails (the ones that get near the top) I only put it about 5 pellets per day, do you have a ratio of pellets to CRS that you feed?

8. For WC, I don't treat my tap water with anything, we don't have chlorine or chloramine in our city water, would it hurt to start using Seachem Prime for WC? (Just to be on the safeside)

Thanks in advance, your help is greatly appreciated, if I kill these guys my wife will kill me! I think I'm going to do just fine considering how I've done with the RCS, but this is much more $ to me then I spent on RCS. Actually the RCS seem very hardy, two weeks ago it was -25F here, and when I do my WC, I use full cold water straight from the tap. Well, I didn't realize how much colder the water temp actually was when I refilled my tanks. I killed a whole school of 18 brand new rummy nose tetras, and a few other fish in another tank. The RCS were unaffected. I didn't notice any change in their behavior at all after being blasted with the ice cold water. I hope the CRS are this hardy!
 

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I will get you your shrimp alive and well. I sold to other members on here like Pedro AKA Milalic with 100% alive. You need lots help first with you tank set up. I will put my 2 cents in later, but others on here are much more experienced.
 

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1. Should I add the CRS to the 5g RCS tank, or is it too small to breed CRS? (I'm planning to sell off almost all of the RCS to LFS)

2. I have a 46g bow that only has one small tetra in it right now, would this be a better choice of tank for breeding CRS? (46g bow topless, 192W 6700/10,000K, Soilmaster Select, Filstar XP2, pressurized Co2, Milwaukee reg & SMS122, AM 1000, Hydor ETH)

3. If I use the 5g, should I add a heater?

4. All of my tanks are topless, do I need a top for CRS?

5. I never miss a 50% WC every sunday, but my water is very hard (15 last test) should I supplement with RO? e.g. 5g of the 20g water change would be RO?

6. My ph starts very high at 8.1 - 8.2 and I bring it down to 6.9 with CO2, if I start adding RO do I need to raise the set-point on my ph controller? If so, to what?

7. I'm currently feeding the RCS Hikari Crab Cuisine, and crushed snails (the ones that get near the top) I only put it about 5 pellets per day, do you have a ratio of pellets to CRS that you feed?

8. For WC, I don't treat my tap water with anything, we don't have chlorine or chloramine in our city water, would it hurt to start using Seachem Prime for WC? (Just to be on the safeside)
1. I would say go with the largest tank possible. Since it's easy to keep stable.

2. I would use that tank and remove the tetra either to the LFS or another tank 5g maybe?

3. Use the bigger tank.

4. You don't NEED a top CRS aren't known jumpers.

5. I would either us RO or get an acidic buffering substrate. ADA AS and Florabase both do this. Maybe Gabe can hold off on shipping?

6. I'm not sure on that... but you don't want to just bring PH down with CO2.

7. Not really, just as much as they eat say over a day in the large tank, or an hour or two in the small one. They also LOVE blanched veggies especially spinach!

8. I would be safe and use Prime. Its only around $10 for their largest common retail size and that treats I believe 2500 gallons.

9. (added a number) Remember to cover the filter intake on the XP3 with a media bag to keep the shrimp out! Sponges are also used but a media bag will keep 100% of the babies out usually...

Have fun, CRS are awesome!

-Andrew
 

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1. I would say go with the largest tank possible. Since it's easy to keep stable.

2. I would use that tank and remove the tetra either to the LFS or another tank 5g maybe?

3. Use the bigger tank.

4. You don't NEED a top CRS aren't known jumpers.

5. I would either us RO or get an acidic buffering substrate. ADA AS and Florabase both do this. Maybe Gabe can hold off on shipping?

6. I'm not sure on that... but you don't want to just bring PH down with CO2.

7. Not really, just as much as they eat say over a day in the large tank, or an hour or two in the small one. They also LOVE blanched veggies especially spinach!

8. I would be safe and use Prime. Its only around $10 for their largest common retail size and that treats I believe 2500 gallons.

9. (added a number) Remember to cover the filter intake on the XP3 with a media bag to keep the shrimp out! Sponges are also used but a media bag will keep 100% of the babies out usually...

Have fun, CRS are awesome!

-Andrew
Thanks for the excellent response. Where is the best place to buy ADA AS?
 

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That is what I always think of when I say I want to get CRS in a year or so ... this is probably what will keep me away from them, they are so expensive and wouldn't want to loose them due to my own mistakes with water wuality, or DOA (but I am not really worried about that).
 

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i feel pretty safe that i know now its from a member of PT.. He Seems Nice
since i see him post alot but i think 1-5 day shipping seems kinda long time?
 

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if your going to use AS, have gabe delay shipping, the stuff spikes ammonia for 1 to 3 weeks after setup. i allow at least a month, and test to make sure ammonia is 0 for at least a few days straight. purigen and stuff helps, but crs are so sensitive they wouldnt last the time it would take to get the ammonia levels down if the soil is still leaching it. also, with AS you probably wont need the co2 anymore. my tap is pretty hard 7.8-8.1 but AS brings it down to 6.5-6.7 with no problem. i use co2, but only sparingly, and only for some of the plants in the tank. my co2 controller is set to cut it off at 6.5 so it hardly ever runs at all.

keep the heater only to maintain a 70-72 water temp. they like colder water and dont do well above 78. they are NOT as hardy as RCS so when you do water changes make sure the water is somewhat close to the temp of the tank.

you can probably cut back on the lighting as well, stick to simple plants like mosses, etc. dont use anything that would require ferts on a regular basis, some have no problem with ferts but mine went nuts at even a half dossage so i dont add anything at all, if the plant cant live on shrimp poop and minerals in the water change, lose it.
 

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Yes, I will delay your shipment until you are ready. I keep my PH at 6.5, but you can have between 6.0-7.1 My water temp is at 23C 71-75F. I use Mastersoil *NOT SOIL MASTER* like found in the U.S. Mastersoil lowers the PH, and KH.

Aqausoil is good, but you need to do a few water changes at 100% for the first 3-5 days. After 5 days do a few 50% water changes. On my weekly water changes I do a 30% change and then add water with Tetra Contra Chlorine out.

I feed my shrimp Shrirakura pellets, but any pleco food is fine as long as its free of copper. I also feed my shrimp frozen blood worms, and Spinach. Please make sure you are buying organic spinach, and should boil it for a few minutes. I like to make a lot and then cut it up into small pieces and then freeze it.

Plants I like to use are moss, Nanas, and Blyxa. Also a few stem plants are good to have. My filter of choice are Eheim filters. I think they are the best! I use white floss, bio cubes ceramic things in my filters, and I change the floss once a month. Dont wash your filter with regular water. Use your water from the tank, and dont rinse your bio cubes with regular water or you will kill all your bacteria that keep your tank stable.

P.S. I would cycle the tank for at least a month.:thumbsup:
 

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Yes, I will delay your shipment until you are ready. I keep my PH at 6.5, but you can have between 6.0-7.1 My water temp is at 23C 71-75F. I use Mastersoil *NOT SOIL MASTER* like found in the U.S. Mastersoil lowers the PH, and KH.
Good to hear you will Gabe! Aquasoil should be in a tank for about a month before adding CRS in my opinion, You can cycle it in about 4 days, But that's uncommon and you want a nice stable tank for CRS!

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OK, if I switch to ADA AS, how many 9L bags would I need for my 46g bowfront? (my best calculation is 4.5... so 5 9L bags, Does this sound right?)
If I switch to the aquasoil, that will lower my ph, but my water will still be very hard... does it make more sense in my case to just supplement with RO water instead of the aquasoil? It seems like less hassle, plus I can use the RO in all my other tanks which would make the cost less per tank then aquasoil. Also, I'm a little fuzzy on this concept... if I don't inject co2, will there be enough in the water just by lowering the ph? I asked Gabe to wait until 3/5 to ship my shrimp, but I'm in no rush and I want to get it right. Thanks again for the replies!

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OK, the ADA site shows $187.34 for 5 bags delivered, it also has a store pick-up option. Where are stores located?
 

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There's two ADA suppliers that deliver. There might be local LFS carrying ADA, but I don't know of any in MN.

AquaForest Aquarium - San Francisco, CA
ADG Shop - Texas
 

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There's two ADA suppliers that deliver. There might be local LFS carrying ADA, but I don't know of any in MN.

AquaForest Aquarium - San Francisco, CA
ADG Shop - Texas
I'll check it out, thanks!

I have noticed shipping is cheapest when you order 3 bags (on a per bag basis). Just FYI.
Good to know, thanks
 
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