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Just a quick follow up on how these guys are doing. From my personal opinion, i think the bloody mary shrimps take a lot longer to color up. They're not all nice red until they're more mature, some of the babies you can tell are really red at a young age. So i did some major culling today and i still end up with a really good amount of bloody marys. I started with only 10 and now i have at least 50 that i would considered bloody mary grades. I also notice one of the males that i culled, ended up being extremely red after a molt.















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Not to be a stick in the mud, but if you did a lot of reading on the bloody marry line you would know that they breed about 50% true in color intensity and then even less for the short rostrum (on there best days). I would wait at least another year before buying them myself. Your 4th photo in post #23 looks to be the only one close to a BM grade. They are supost to be darker than painted fire reds.
 

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Not to be a stick in the mud, but if you did a lot of reading on the bloody marry line you would know that they breed about 50% true in color intensity and then even less for the short rostrum (on there best days). I would wait at least another year before buying them myself. Your 4th photo in post #23 looks to be the only one close to a BM grade. They are supost to be darker than painted fire reds.
Yea, I was late on the news of them not breeding true. I didn't read about it till a few people on here having the same problem. I am probably just gonna keep selective breeding them to get them redder.
 

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I got rid of mine, as I hated having to cull so much on them. I wish jimmy still had his pfr or genius did and was still one here they had great ones

Bloody Mary Shrimps seemed really beautiful but I agree with Steve on this. Nothing quite does it in the Neo department for me except PFR. I wished I still have my colony. The deep opaque red is just unbeatable.
 

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Yeah Bloody Mary is good to have if you really have plenty of other shrimps already and can spend alot of time to refine them. Their cull rate is so high it's not even worth it to invest in yet. Maybe in a couple years. Jim's line is super rare right now. Lucky I still have his bloodline :)
 

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Guys google "variable expressivity". There are some genes that will be naturally variable. Similar examples are fancy ranchu goldfish. Even if you have a pair of champion breeders, 99% of the offspring will be inferior to both parents, even after a CENTURY of selective breeding. Many shrimp color mutations are like that, unfortunately.
 

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Bandaiban do you have a huge crayfish in your Bloody Mary tank? I saw a massive claw haha


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Lol. It's a huge ghost clarkii crayfish, its probably 7 inches long. Doesn't bother the shrimps at all though.

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Bump: Another update on these guys. With super culling, i am actually getting really nice shrimps. I am hoping that, i have to cull less later on. They're breeding extremely fast compared to my other neo shrimps.







Bump: I just realize how thick the shell has gotten compared to pictures from the first page.
 

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Would you consider them worth it now?
To be honest with you, it's still not worth it. I am still doing extreme culling. Notice no one sells baby bloody Mary's. They don't turn that red until a little older. I also notice some males are super red, but once they molt they turn clear. They do turn back to deep red later. So I think they still need a lot more culling to get where it needs to be. I have kept a lot of different colors of neo and I gotta admit, these needs some serious culling. I think if I just stop culling the color would turn back to regular cherries eventually.
 
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