ch3fb0yrdee· Premium Member
This is my personal experience with these shrimps. I am really disappointed with what i got, and it seems like a lot of people is on the same boat. So just a heads up if anyone of you is about to spend your money on them. I think you should wait it out for a couple more months for breeders to have them breed more true. Out of 40 young baby shrimps, only 5 of them is good to keep to breed. The rest will be culls. I notice nobody is selling them as juvies or young adults, they're being sold as adults. So think twice before you invest in them.
Why can't they all look like this?
Real shame. I did know that the impurity was an underlining issue with the Bloody Mary. If I'm correct, another member experienced this random mutation a year and a half ago and posted his findings on The Planted Tank. EbiKen identified the shrimp as a Bloody Mary and estimated it would hit the market sometime this year, once a larger population could be produced and genes stabilized. I guess the genes never really stabilized. It's quite unfortunate as the shrimp itself is very nice, but for such top dollars (yes they are sold at huge premiums for being Neos) their genes are still to random to justify the huffy. I've spoken with a few members privately on the subject of Bloody Mary. There's so many shrimps available now that I chose not to get into Bloody Mary. Lucky for me.
This is normal with all new shrimp coming into the market, none breed true. Bloody Mary are supposed to be characterized as having short rostroms, yet a lot being exported to the us, and even bred and sold in the us have long rostroms.
Once everyone sees a new shrimp color, species etc, everyone jumps on it without any research. With no questions, and this is the buyers fault not only the sellers.
I do agree to wait it out. The shrimp pix you posted seem to have orange flesh tone, once the shell color thickens and colors in all the way it should be a solid red. Bloody Mary's were bred for red or orange flesh tone to darken the outer red shell.
I'm not sure how normal it is, but it has become the norm. It wasn't like this before, at least not from what I could remember. There were certain minimal standards kept before as to what could be expected from a new shrimp. Given, shrimps didn't enter the market as rapidly as it did in the past. I believe this was because original breeders kept on to their product and worked at it until it was ready for market. Nowadays, it's either your first, or you're last. This is especially true with Neo who's can breed so rapidly profit is significantly reduced once it becomes available to the public.
I heard that when Red Rili were the new hotness, there were two breeders simultaneously working on the strain not even realizing.
Agreed that it's equally important for the seller to inform buyers if such "impurities" in the lineage and the buyer's own do-diligence to research before buying.
It's just so hard when there's so many fantastic pictures!!
yeah. Rili shrimp are starting to pop out from my group. After eradicating all my rili and pfrs and starting new tanks I'm starting to get them in the BM group. Also, got shrimp that are orange, almost clear, yellow. It's a crazy group. I'm beginning to feel there may have been an additive in the food they feed the shrimps. Some hocus pocus stuff before importing out to get them to turn intense red. It may cover a couple of generations, but once the additive dilutes out well start seeing more and more true colors or flaws in the group.
??? Rili shrimps, really... that's the furthest away you can be in terms of red from BMs.
Interesting topic popped up on another forum over the matter of color enhancing agents in shrimp foods causing color changing reactions. I'm not expert but from a consumer standpoint, it's definitely a slippery slope when manufactures are adding these ingredients to their foods. Not saying this is happening for the Bloody Mary as I don't keep Bloody Mary myself, but it makes me question such tactics. Why is it that we argue the point of "organic" or healthy food alternative for our shrimps, but turn around buy a product confirmed to do quite the opposite.